Sorry. This is still bizarre rationalizing to me. Clearly she was disturbed, and her and her child’d deaths are tragic. But I tend not to sympathize with people who murder children. Someone else here mentions it: your views on free will ought to go far in explaining your thoughts on these two events (the other being…

She literally murdered her son. That will never be okay. You can discuss how she was in a horrible position without defending her decision to murder her son.

Yeah no. Eugenie is going to be strictly by the books. Our only hope is her mother Fergie. I see the powers that be finally allowed her to attend a wedding today but they clearly had her seated behind a pillar as far away from them as possible. It will be interesting to see how they will handle seating arrangements…

It wasn’t about being fuddy-duddy or not ready. It was just that nobody preaches like that in the C of E. There’s no call and response, no applause, no performance. Most of the people there had never seen anyone behave like that (I don’t mean that in a negative way) in a church, apart from American TV. It’s like if…

This is beautiful, thank you.

This case would be quite different if she only killed herself. But this isnt just a suicide story. This is a child-murder story. We don’t give passes to pedophiles just because the pedophiles were abused at some point. Whatever her intentions for killing the child, there is no justification.

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She killed a child. She didn’t drop the child off at a police station. She didn’t drop the child off with family. She dropped the child off a building. She was the worst abuser.

This a million times. Hope she burns in hell. I would have had nothing but sympathy for her if she jumped alone. But she murdered a child. Nuh uh. No domestic violence sympathies for this child murderer.

I think you’re both right. She was clearly mentally ill, desperate, and likely a victim of abuse. At the same time, she murdered her son which makes her the worst abuser of all.

She is the ultimate abuser here. What she did to that child is inexcusable, and the worst act to ever happen in that child’s life. Only an abuser would murder.

Im sorry, but fuck her. She’s no different than any of those assholes who murder their wife and kids then turn the gun on themselves. Throwing your seven year old child out of a window is the most severe act of abuse you can commit. She was an abuser.

And the racist/sexist/homophobe is never accountable for the mistakes or shitty things they did at the beginning of the episode. All forgotten!

That’s right, Roseanne. They weren’t the bad guys. You were.

Yeah this is one of TV’s worst tropes... the ever redeemable racist/sexist/homophobe with a heart of gold finally meets the model minority that makes him reconsider the humanity of others. Then they’re celebrated!

I keep hoping that with an American marrying into the royal family England will accept our apologies agree to take us back, and Trump can go back to being America’s creepy uncle that doesn’t get invited to Thanksgiving anymore.

Anything that takes Trump out of the headlines for a brief moment is fine by me.

Just because we are jaded does not me we are wrong.

it’s very cynical on her end. she appears to be using the “more women in power is a good thing” as a vehicle for her own benefit. “more women in power...hey, did you notice that i’m a woman? *hint hint*”

I dislike Gillibrand because she’s after this quick-fix top-down change of “if women were in power, things would be better” rather than challenge the system from the bottom up.