For movies that “nobody liked” they sure made a ton of money.

The good news is he’ll have another crack at it in 2016 AND he’ll have a top five draft pick to deploy.
Of course, Trent Baalke will inevitably use it to trade down to five sixth round draft picks, which he’ll roll into two fourth round picks for 2018, which he’ll then use to draft two long snappers (one with a torn…

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Here Here. Many people are forgetting this tidbit. It was all the middle earth lore used for these films, not just a specific novel.

I didn't mind the Necromancer stuff because it all actually happened, they just didn't show it in the Hobbit but referred to it in LotR as having been what Gandalf and his elf friends were up to during that time.

Perhaps, but The Hobbit was such an isolated book that came before Middle Earth was really properly developed enough, and it was originally meant for children. Then LotR happened, and everything about Middle Earth changed.

Yeah, and to me the Necromancer stuff IS a big part of the LotR tie-in. So definitely, that stuff is important.

I'm cool with the Necromancer stuff, too. That's why I think there's an ideal two-film adaptation in the book: one that starts off in this much more fantastical world whereas the second provides a much clearer bridge to the world of LotR as the Necromancer and Ring stuff creep in.

Thank you for having sense.

I'm attempting to avoid getting bogged down in the details and possible pedantry of trying to maintain a tit-for-tat exchange, so let me get to the point.

Removed all of the heavy foreshadowing for LOTR and the evil of the ring - kept to the spirit of the book, it was a playful invisibility ring!

At least one person here gets it.

Also, much of the extra stuff is from the Appendices to the Lord of the Rings.

The reality is, you CANNOT pull LOTR out of these films, or even The Hobbit book itself, because of how much LOTR really changed things.

Removed all of Gandalf's necromancer adventures

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