what, they don’t test one or two out before trying to buy a fleet?

Nothing more dangerous than a bored cop, except maybe several bored cops.

When my wife was a teenager (before she was my wife, obviously), she was pulled over on her Moped. The department sent FIVE patrol cars to assist in the stop and ticket writing.

A cop named Crook. I love it.

There’s a big difference between taking the engine up to the rev limiter, and actual over-revving which can only really be caused by downshifting.

It says he took it to a drag strip. How to you overrev a modern engine while accelerating?

god, that new logo they came out with a few years ago looks so damn dumb

Agree. The dealerships were mostly built during the era where Hyundai/Kia mostly sold miserable economy cars whose only virtue was being cheaper than the Honda/Toyota equivalent. Most have not caught up to serve the typical Ioniq 5N- type customer. But I think things will slowly change as they see more of those folks…

Kia dealers suck.-Carnival & stinger owner

Yeah, I have had similar experiences.

I once went to a Nissan dealership during the middle of the day (office was shut down early and everyone was sent home) so it was just about empty.

My exact point. They had something good and let is slide into obscurity. When I got my 16 Q50 new I loved it. It is still my daily and has been a good car. I would have bought a new one if they were not the same exact car 6 years later.

Yeah but for a decade or so 150 people in C suite and above made out like bandits while those at the bottom kept the doors open doing the work of 2 or more employees while the brand was decimated. So hurray?

I had not driven any Nissan product in probably a decade until I got saddled with a Rogue as a rental back in March. Brand new, less than 5K miles on it. There were so many rattles and squeaks and road noise, it was unbelievable. The interior materials may as well have come from a 20-year old Accord. The engine was…

They are caught in a doom spiral that is the inevitable result of cost cutting. Cost cutting leads to less R&D and cheaper feeling vehicles, which leads to needing to tap subprime and fleet sales to move metal (upmarket buyers don’t want dated cheap-feeling vehicles). The subprime and fleet sales keep the cash coming…

Nissan is the next Mitsubishi. Boring, forgettable cars that will soon be nothing more than rental fleet fodder.

Self inflicted wound. They let innovation and design language stagnate to the point they became irrelevant. They threw good vehicles in the bin (Maxima, Q50, Q70) because they did not want to invest in making them better. They dropped a whole segment of the market. This could have been avoided, but they assumed good…

I think the feds should have sued Hyundai a while ago to force them to fix their cars.  They literally are primarily responsible for the current auto-theft crime wave. 

As frequently as Hyundais and Kias get stolen, have recalls or engine failures, I’m surprised they’re doing as well as they are too.

Nissan is in a very worrying spot right now.  I think they have been usurped by the likes of Hyundai.  They should be where Hyundai is now if they had played their cards right.  I still think their vehicles are plenty decent, just not stellar.  Might be some good deals to be had if they have to slash prices.  They…