With those open front fenders this thing better not see snow.

I own a ES 350 but I would never buy this thing because of the ugly front end. When I look at it all I seen is some bottom dwelling sea thing hoovering up detritus from the ocean bottom. After all cars in this price range are about more than simply inexpensive transportation. Looks play a part along with everything…

I don’t know why but as soon as I saw that picture my mind went immediately in the gutter. I see I was not alone. Good comments.

Oh hell no I’m not touching it. The only touching that will go on is my fist and his face.

Looks like something the fishermen drag up from like 2 miles deep in the ocean occasionally. Could’t make it uglier if they tried.

I laughed first and then got angry. Don’t like to see anybody get hurt and get mad at seeing people acting so careless with their life.

Tires are too big. Needs a smaller set of tires to complete the amusement park ride look.

I think he was thinking “I’m gonna score tonight - third date” and this whole thing put an end to that.

True but many a Volt owner and others think it is an electric car. One in my family who brags about it. Not worth the effort to explain that any car that you put gas in is a hybrid at best. For many it’s all about the show.

Are we talking at the dealer of EBay?

What? And your saying his mom is making him sell it?

Went to Wikipedia and looked up crack pipe. Saw this there. At best a parts car but as most of all the demand is overseas, shipping will be an issue on heavy parts plus you have to compete with salvage yards over there. I am assuming not many of the 30 cars imported here are still on the road. Note to seller: strip…

I hear you but still missing the point.

That is probably the same database that colleges use to find you and send you alumni solicitation magazines. They find me no matter where I move. I has suggested for years that the government use them to track down Osama.

I’m mystified by an effort to improve the drive train and bring it into the 21 century while still using wood. How hard would it be to eliminate the wood? Would replacing the wood change the character of the car that much but changing to an electric engine would not?

Ford used actual cars at their exhibit to move people through it just like any ride at an amusement park. Think Space Mountain but sitting in an actual car. All different cars from the Ford line up were used. They were non functional with some sort of track they rode on.

Only if you have the Range Rover monkey on your back, and then at a discount to the asking price. CP for anyone else straight and sober.

You are correct. They piss away this amount for coffee and misc crap all the time. Doesn’t matter if a plant is ever built or people employed. What matters is that we looked like we did something! Next election comes up -Look what we did for you! Bonus - rival politicians can’t say they would have done a deal with…

Livable is a relative term. Most of these cars are not DDs or packed with child seats. Few people complain that a 2 door pickup is not livable without a back seat. All depends on your needs. Having a tiny back seat only good for sub 10 years olds or coats does not necessarily make it “livable”but is a good selling…

Rust, rust,rust! Run for your lives! It’s coming for your children in your garage. CP