I think you could have spent a lot less and gotten a better bike, and still learned to do DIY things if you would have looked a bit. You can get an older model Surly Karate monkey or similar frameset. Something versitle that has all the brazeon’s and features you could ever want. This way, you would have gotten a bike…

“TL:DR: Not bad!”

That’s pretty much what driving any cross over is: meh, Not bad.

Since pedestrian safety doesn’t matter, can we just bring back Pop-up headlamps then?

“If you’re heading out into the woods or the desert to enjoy it, wouldn’t you rather hear the birds chirping than the revs of your machine?”

No! My 4 wheeler sounds awesome! The mechanical symphony.....

IMO, grilles are still the issue. You could style the grille to go better with your angry lights. Or change the lights to go with the grille as you suggest, but ultemately, IDK what the hell is with car makers and giving their cars the biggest grilles possible. They’re all hiddeous. Chevy, Lexus, BMW, STOP!!!! Its all…

“and when you get out of it you don’t say, ‘I wish I had a bigger engine.’”

Sure you don’t.....

I pretty much have the thought that most cars would be better with some more giddy up :p

Real Volvo’s power the rear wheels.

But as far as non bricks go, the p80 car’s are nearly as bulletproof as their redblock ancestors.

This might be one of the first “crossovers” I don’t hate at first site, it looks good, because a lowered crossover looks like, gasp, a proper estate!  And Audi being renown for fast estates, this makes sense. 

All car’s should come pre-sented to the smell of a vintage European car.

All old euro’s have a certain, Smell.... from Volvo’s to Porsche’s, and its one of my favorite smells.

woah, I strangely want this too.  Didn’t know the v6 came with a stick in the states?

“When are you going to LS swap it?”
or
“You should LS swap it”

Illegal?  Samir, this is America!

There’s a lot of really cool stuff in Minnapolis. Lots of good restaurants, some good museums and lots of fun places to pedal around to and or go to lots of the various parks and the riverwalks.

The I5 Ford got was lifted directly from Volvo, Unless there was some other project to build one from the mod motor that I’m not aware of? 

I’m not sure how anyone affords a brand new car or wants to honestly. I own a home, in a dual income household even after covid, and nope and nope to a new car payment. 

I’d never feel bad about selling a cav, I’d just feel bad for its next owner.

I had a thought about one of these the other day, it was weird, because for years I never gave these cars a 2nd look, but the more I look at them now, they seem to be the spiritual successor and kinda look like the old Mitsu FTO that we never officially got here.

Most of my cars are from the 90's and all of them have way more than 100k and they’re just still getting broke in. Maybe if you didn’t buy garbage in the 90s?

Every car from pre 199 I’ve ever owned has lasted a spectacularly long time

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I think the hate really only exists for this thing, because it didn’t have a v8. I’ll bet if they fixed that one thing, it would have been a lot more popular and less hated.

Having not driven one, I can’t say its trash with a v6, it may be perfectly fine, but the wanga danga audience they aimed this car at questions…