The problem with that F&I strategy is that salespeople generally only get paid on the “front-end gross” of a car deal... All commission they make is on flat profit from the sale. Any salesperson worth their salt will hold price as much as possible to preserve their comission dollars.

$Kudos!

The death inevitable death of Harley Davidson will result from its own actions, or lack thereof & its inability to pull its head out if its proverbial @$$.....

This is, quite possibly, the most delectable morsel of Schadenfrude I have experienced in my lifetime.

I would LOVE to ride a cool american made electric motorcycle... if they would freaking design one & not sell it for *STUPID* money.... I’m of the opinion that Harley Davidsons products have been overpriced & not really super well-built, at least in terms of reliability & actual value for your dollar.

I spent 364 days living in the Phoenix area (Chandler specifically), & I have two things of note to mention from my time there.

 You KNOW Aquaman just upgraded the F*ck out of his garage!

Pete is making an effort to make things better.

You guys need to look at fieldgulls.com on the SBnation sites. The analytics guys there \are sharp.

Oh, my bad, I thought hockey was still good.

Oh, my bad, I thought hockey was still good.

A family event where actual blood on the Ice & people getting teeth knocked out is an okay thing..... But HoLy Moses don’t you dare say FUCK! What kinda horsesh!t is that?

welcome to 2017. The year of “ I can’t even get my head around that”

Or all your truths will become wild dreams. Which would be okay too.

Not even a HINT of arrogance there..... surely! You DO know all! Oh THANK YOU! God please, it’s people like you who are the fucking worst. If you knew what you were doing you’d never even walk onto the showroom floor.

to be fair.... more than half of the people who buy cars from car lots, used especially, are complete & total shitwits. It’s a proven fact. Spend a year or two standing around on a car lot & it becomes IRREFUTABLE.

This is truly the place to bathe in the Vikings Schadenfreude.....

The browns couldn’t find win now (or win AT ALL) mode if football was founded in Cleveland....

This was not the review I was expecting.

I had this happen at very low speed in an ‘89 6cyl Acura legend coupe (manual) on a snow covered road.