I was replying to immolite above where they mentioned the issue not being one of sympathy. I agree it need not be an issue of sympathy. If you don't want to look at it in terms of sympathy, look at it in terms of justice... as I said if I'm going to be a just person I would look for the most egregious injustices to…

As far as I know progressive nations like Sweden etc come down hard on child molesters, because they understand the damage it does to a person's ability to enjoy life and sex. Yes they are not killed but there is not the widespread systemic injustice in dealing with child sexual abuse that there is in North America…

In an odd sort of way I think of child molesters as even worse than murderers*, precisely because the victim will have many years of suffering to deal with as a result of the crime. Even when it's over it's not really over, you know? I think that's why you're seeing such a visceral "nope, don't really care if someone…

I just don't see a difference between a child molester and a murderer. I mean yeah, the victim still gets to walk around and what-not, but how much of their life will they be missing out on because some fuckwit couldn't keep hir urges to themselves?

Victims do not have the opportunity to recover and lead normal lives. There's no normal when you were sexually abused as a child. It forever alters your ability to trust other people. I know you're speaking out of ignorance, but really?

the idea of revenge is a great deal more satisfying a lot of the time than notions of forgiveness>>

1. Many people argue for the death penalty for child molesters for the same reason that we give the death penalty to serial killers. We know from 30 years of research that fewer than 10% of people who sexually assault children are "rehabilitated" (though there is some argument over whether they are truly rehabilitated…

"Victims DON'T get over it. It's like being hit by a car, some people survive some don't."

"As insidious as the act is, victimes do still have the opportunity to recover and lead normal lives. That in and of itself makes the crime unsuitable for a death sentence."

As insidious as the act is, victimes do still have the opportunity to recover and lead normal lives. That in and of itself makes the crime unsuitable for a death sentence.>>

Spoken like someone who's never been molested. The only thing more traumatic than seeing your dad kill someone who molested you is NOT seeing your dad kill someone who molested you. Watching that molester walk away and go on to live a prosperous life while you're left with struggle, therapy and pain for the rest of…

Written like a person who has never been a victim of a violent/traumatic crime. ANYONE has the right to DEFEND themselves and/or loved ones from being a victim of crime, even if it means the death of the perpetrator.

Have you ever been molested at four years old, walked in on that happening, or had it happen to your child?

A little off-topic, but that's how I reason abortion will always be legal in Texas. If someone is on your property and threatening you with bodily harm, you have the right to kill them.