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I don’t follow? I am not talking about the personal beliefs of an individual. I am referring to society (or American society) as a whole. What society finds or doesn’t find acceptable. Lincoln was anti slavery and he was democratically elected President of the U.S. Which reflected where the majority of Americans

+1 tiny hands salute

Robert E Lee rebelled against his country and fought a war against the democratically elected government of the U.S. led by a person who opposed slavery. The country had changed in 1860 and the majority of Americans opposed slavery or had deep reservations about it. Therefore a war was fought and thousands died. So

Agreed but there is another reason here as well. Statues are erected to commemorate heroes. Every citizen can look at Washington or Jefferson and agree they are heroes of America. Sure some might think that the evil they did overrides any of the good, but such view are a small minority. They are held in respect by a

You have to evaluate people within the context of the times they lived and the choices they made. If we apply the ethical standards of today there would be no heroes left. We can’t have such a narrow and cynical view of history. Who knows in another 100-200 years things that we accept today as moral might move.

Becauase society moves and the country changed. There were many things legal or illegal in 1865 that are different now. How do you think Lincoln would have reacted to gay marriage? Does it mean he not great. Statues are erected for the great things men achieve in their lives. Washington and Jefferson, despite their

I don’t know why you think I said. I had said that not everyone who voted for Trump is necessarily racists and some ppl willfully or otherwise got duped. That there might be people who are regretting their vote and could be brought back to the light. Trump himself is vile and racist. And I believe with his utterances

It is time to form an alt-left. Unless we want to have all our rights trampled upon.

What?

Dogwhistle? He is practically screaming out his support. Let us not be under any illusion here.

This is not just Republican strategy. Do you think this is how a President Rubio, or a President Cruz, or even a President Pence would have responded? Dropped all pretense and supported violent racists and white nationalists that killed an innocent woman? Trump is something fundamentally different. He is a menace and

Either this nation and all the sacrifices mean something or not. He must be removed from power. If necessary, by people power. I am ready to donate my time and sweat for this purpose. There should be mass demonstrations outside the White House, everywhere he goes. Enough is enough. We cannot let this racist madman

It does not matter how angry he was. It is time for us to get angry. This man must be removed from power. If necessary, by people power. He is an unhinged racist tyrant.

There are no words of condemnation, no justification, no excuses for this. This man must be removed from power. He is not fit to be President. He is not fit to be White House janitor. This is beyond outrage and parody. There must be a national uprising to remove him from anywhere near the levels of power.

gotta admire his guts!! you go, progressive liberal!

Nope not white by a mile :) And I did not intend to be condescending but sometimes you never know how you sound via some sentences. I am all for shaking hands and making friends and allies. That was my original response in this comment thread. That there are people who voted for Trump who might be regretting their

We are not fighting according to me. You seemed to take offense to my using the term brown face ... which I am not sure why. Is that some kind of slur now? In any case, I was responding to another commentator who insisted that I am apparently a massive racist and the worst person in the world. I don’t know I might

Well pardon me then. I have been called everything from a racist to a sexist vulgarian (?) because I made a relatively non-controversial (to me at least) observation that we should try to build bridges with and not summarily dismiss every Trump voter as racist and culpable for the Alt-Right assholes.

Ahem I’m very brown myself internet tough guy. I don’t have to worry about what my neighbors, family and friends think of me. They tell me so everyday.

Ha ha. Touched a nerve, did I? Look up your insults list. There might be some your forgot in your rage.