There were also other things happening around the same time — Fey was also heavily criticized for a lot of whitewashing in her casting: not having Central Asian actors play Central Asian characters in one of her movies, and for having a white woman play a Native character in 30 Rock. I think the Titus-as-geisha…

Bryan V strikes me as being all technique, and no point-of-view. At no point this season have I been interested in his food, while I’d love to try every single dish of Gregory’s or Melissa’s.

Also, he mentioned the food was served family-style, which points to it being Kevin’s restaurant.

I thought his first season he had a beard AND crazy bush hair, and in general both looked and acted like Yukon Cornelius? But yeah, he has gotten much more intense.

Same here -- lead actress has no charisma (appears to have been cast based on her resemblance to the classic cover illustrations), and the show can’t seem to decide how campy it should be. It gets points for making George, Bess, and Ned way more interesting than they were in the books, though.

I haven’t seen the finale, but . . . this is part of the arc of the character, no? Like, after her first terrible act in Vegas, someone from the casino had to pull her aside and explain that no one knew wtf she was talking about.

Plenty of comedians today seem to be gleefully culturally unaware, and are doing just fine.

Now that we’re two episodes in it appears that Bess might be a lesbian (although probably not George). It’s still moving slowly, but i’m still interested to see where it’s going.

Agreed -- I want to love Nancy Drew, but it doesn’t have remotely the same level of fire or chemistry as Riverdale. (Maybe that’s what that show deserves, for not making George a lesbian.)

“I also don’t see any of the new people taking up ethics lessons unless they think they are bad people who don’t belong there. Would you?” — exactly. And John’s argument for declining was so strong that in retrospect I found myself re-evaluating the logic in seasons 1 and 2. 

I really enjoyed the Tahani-John interactions, because . . . he wasn’t wrong. Even in The Good Place she can be insufferable. I was actually wondering if this episode was going to result in her reverting to her former self.

11 and 12 seem insanely young to me to be baby-sitting. 13, for kids past potty-training, sure. I’ve definitely hired 14-year-olds to baby-sit my kids.

Yeah, I got them from the library for my son (who enjoyed them). And for me, yes, okay.

I kind of love how Jane keeps on learning more about her abuela through Jorge. And I like that we get lots of offhand comments that really establish how well Jorge and Alba communicate and understand each other.

Totally agree. I’m not saying that people can’t be emotional over the death of someone they didn’t particularly like, but I’m not sure this episode really captured it.

Rogelio’s career -- and in fact, all things Rogelio -- has always been one of my favorite parts of the show. I love that he assumes he’ll become an iconic supporting character after slowing down his career.

Season 4 was definitely better than season 3 (perhaps the series’ low point), but season 2 is among the greatest stretches of TV ever.

The outside view of that apartment confused me, too. I thought Jane had been living in a one-bedroom apartment in a kind of run-down house that was definitely not on the water. And I thought the outside of Mary Louise’s apartment looked like the place that Celeste rented last season when she was leaving Perry.

Exactly! (Also, see Renata’s fawning over Elizabeth, because it was probably maybe the second time a black person had ever been in her home, and she was overcompensating for her awkwardness.)

Either a previous suicide attempt, or some other sort of near-death experience, yes.