well, the scene with the satanist strung up from the rafters of the warehouse was a tableau pretty much lifted straight out of Hannibal (can't remember exactly, but I think it was midway through season 1)

So, turns out not an intentional trolling…
http://www.hitfix.com/whats…

the Beast's attack on Penny seems diabolically particular and directed - general mayhem and bloody nastiness in taking out Alice and Eliot/Margot, but he got Penny in a way that also specifically neutralized a very useful feature of Penny's powers.

"We're fancy, deal with it!"
I've just discovered my new motto, and I simply can not wait to use it in real life!!!

just from a stylistic viewpoint so far, I like the grimey Euro setting, the somber tone, & the fact that it's *not* all the usual whitebread model-types running around in LA, NYC, & London

I love the slow burn of this show oh so so much! & I usually *hate* spoilers but I just couldn't resist clicking through - I both love you and hate you for posting this :-)
Can't wait for next week, but I also kinda hope that this easter-egg is a head-fake for those of us who love to over-read the tea leaves…

@doctorpenguin - I think Penny can't take her anywhere, because he no longer has his hands (and the knuckle-tattoo spell from Victoria that allows travellers to bring along others)

I love that line in the book!!!
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"the name's Asmodeus, bitches! & if ya see Julia, tell her I've gone fox hunting…"

"but gave her a significant name from the book?"
Pretty sure that was just a shout-out / easter-egg for book readers. Since in this show-version of the Beast faceoff our heroes aren't accompanied by a couple of ninja badass competition-winners, they named her Fen, and (I only caught this through the credits, I don't…

I now see from IMDB that it isn't the same actor, but while watching I was psyched cuz I thought that Umber was played by Olaf the troll from Buffy the Vampire Slayer (i.e. Anja's first boyfriend/suitor, also known as Jerry the desk clerk from E.R., or in real life as Abraham Benrubi)

the books (or at least the 1st one) follow a pretty standard path - our heroes undergo trials and tribulations, things look dicey, but in the end good triumphs over evil… and cut to credits
So I actually like that the show is taking a different tack - everyone is just burnt toast, and the only one left standing is…

might also be a show-writers' safety net that they built in, just in case they decide down-the-line that the plot needs a do-over, or that some reinforcements/calvary are now called for. If needed they can point back to it, if not then it's a cool easter egg

aha, thanks - I did not remember that

nice catch! I don't think the show has explicitly tied it in, but it does make sense and is a nice little easter egg in any case.
and I think (can't remember for sure, been a while since I've read the books) that the time-looping thing is a show-only plot device, at least as far as the 39 tries-so-far

Pushing Daisies!!!

One way I thought of for Daisy to keep from dying, without making the vision be any less "true" - bulletproof vest/armor/helmet (or load Coulson's gun with blanks). Still gets shot like she saw, but lives.
For that matter, stick FitzSimmons on a soundstage and shower them with fake snow.
EDIT: I did like the way the…

so in the show are Josh and Eliot/Margo classmates?

actually, that's why they went to the 40's at all - to get to Fillory they have to follow Jane through the gateway, which I'd think they'd pretty much be stepping on her heels when coming out. I'm guessing Jane had already headed down into the valley towards the castle? Or had a griffin-Uber waiting to pick her up?

"It suggests that the TV series is just another spin of the wheel by Jane
Chatwin and kind of explains away any differences between the books and
the show."
Love this, totally meta and makes so much sense, yes!
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if followed to its logical conclusion, it implies the show will end horribly (or…

I suspect (fear?) that they're saving the other shoe-drop for season 2