Thank Galactus the Roger Corman movie never got a proper release, so it doesn't count.

I would also ignore the origin unless it's literally the pre-title sequence of the movie. And not one of those Pacific Rim pre-title sequences neither! A fantastically fun four minute opening, then boom, superheroes.

In before the Seinfeld Quote Generator: I was ensconced in velvet!

I read a Star Trek novel written ostensibly by William Shatner in which Kirk survived Star Trek: Generations (or was cloned?) and wound up in the TNG future, wherein he saved the galaxy from the Borg by realizing they were all just extensions of V'Ger from The Motion Picture, so only he could communicate with them to…

It definitely had a bad reputation for a while, because it wasn't Star Wars/Wrath of Khan, mostly (I believe). I'm thinking of people like my dad, who liked the movie just fine, but could never get excited for it the way he could for Khan.

Yeah, when I hear it in my head, it's got kind of an old-timey announcer feel. It does evoke that sense adventure… in space! So I hope that's part of it.

I don't think that's really true. Star Trek fans, the ones I know, all like The Motion Picture, though it's not without its flaws. The ones we really don't like are Final Frontier and most of the TNG movies, simply because they're bad movies. I think the backlash to TMP is that it came out when Star Wars was the next…

Yeah, what's interesting about those two movies is that they work just fine as fun, thrilling suspense/action movies even if you've never heard of Star Trek before. Both continue plots from their respective shows, but none of those episodes really matter to the movies — in fact, not seeing the TNG Borg episodes might…

I actually like this title, though that may be because I can't help but say it with an invisible colon, pausing between Trek and Beyond. Star Trek: Beyond is neat, right? Right?! Oh, what I have done…

By "in the spirit" of Star Trek, most of us just mean "don't make it aggressively dumb, please."

This checks out.

I'm Gorny just thinking about that.

Star Trek '09 was also a Wrath of Khan copy, as was Nemesis before it. We've had three movies in a row that basically copy the Khan formula and only one was decent enough to justify it… and that's the one without "Khan".

I actually want that bath mat and shower curtain set. So now you all know what to give me for X-Mas.

There's always next time.

Maybe on the moon!

I know, they don't sound the same. That was my point!

I agree, but maybe to others it does.

If anything, knowing the movie changes things so drastically has me more interested in the real people. That's… something?

There are several Lennon and Dylan children that can also lay claim to that.