Yes, yes, I've read through the thread now. No fun coming in later and acting all omniscient. Nyah.

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Where did I imply she was ever much of a character to begin with? The implication is that she's always been a function of Glenn's story, in the show, and has never stood on her own.

I can see that happening, what with her already being positioned as Deanna's right-hand woman. This is one of the few things I think worked better in the comic than the show, though, because Maggie had already lost most of her family well before Alexandria. So Glenn was all she had left and she saw him die in a most…

It's pretty crazy that Glenn's head wound up positioned almost directly underneath the dumpster, when they fell, head-first, away from the dumpster. But I've seen the stills that prove this is true, so he's alive.

While I've enjoyed the episodes this season for the most part and, considering how far the show has come, it's actually pretty decent now. But from the premiere on, characters have been doing things that make me go, "Wait, shouldn't you know better?" And it isn't all Alexandrians, which would be fine and good and…

Her? What, is she funny or something?

Remember when Sam killed that White Walker in Game of Thrones, and nobody could decide based on the shots whether or not his dragon glass blade shattered with the the White Walker, or whether Sam grabbed it if it didn't? And it was a pressing concern because it was never clear how much dragon glass Sam had to begin…

I was thinking about the roof thing, too. There are at least a couple sections of the TellTale Walking Dead game where the characters traverse a city on rooftop. It's not easy and comes with its own set of problems, but the people in that universe are always looking for higher ground.

Huh, you know what, I like that quite a bit. Block off the exits with empty big rig trailers and then start tossing in molotov cocktails from the cliffs. Normally I'd be opposed to setting zombies on fire, because then you just have a shambling corpse that wants to eat you… but is also on fire.

You know, I wished we'd seen him slide under the dumpster if that's what ends up happening. That would have been another nice callback to the first season, with Rick hiding under the tank at the end of the pilot. Then Rick's gunshots would save Glenn in the next episode, just like Glenn saved Rick in the second ep.

Yeah, I said upthread that a better cliffhanger scenario would have been getting inside the dumpster and torching as many walkers as possible beforehand. That was before I saw the dumpster was apparently chained and locked. Nicholas sacrificing himself without bringing Glenn with him would work too.

I think she sacrifices Enid to do it.

Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.

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Yeah, the more I go through this thread, the more I'm convinced he's still alive. The execution of this is pretty annoying all around.

What? If those were his guts being ripped out and then he passed out from pain, they didn't cut away from his actual death.

Hell, for that matter, instead of killing that walking walker in the pet store, Michonne could have cut its lower jaw off and given it to one the wounded Alexandrians as protection in case they started lagging behind… which one immediately did. Oy.

So, it's confirmed then. Bad writing.

The point about the guts previously was that people would smell like walkers, not viscera. Fresh blood would only excite zombies more, making them dig deeper into Nicholas's body (if that was indeed him and not Glenn) until they eventually got to Glenn. And with Glenn yelling the whole time he's not doing himself any…