No. You can’t make traffic deaths zero UNLESS you get rid of traffic (aka no moving of people) and force everyone to stay in your house.

Even if tech gets great, or training gets great, there are always exceptions. There is always a freak error, mistake. There’s mother nature. Heck, even if all cars don’t kill people,…

This is why I have trust issues.

That mindset is bad economics.

I ran the math and saved myself minimum 30 hours by going 10+ over the speed limit. At my free time rate ($30 hr min) That’s $900 I saved myself.

And why is it illegal to flash oncoming traffic to warn them about the speed trap you just spotted? They should give you a medal for getting all those people to slow the fuck down.

No. Their job is to protect and serve (the people). Unless you’re driving at a reckless pace, writing tickets is not their job.

The second they make a police car hard to spot, it just went from public safty and law enforcement to revenue generation and harrassment. The “us vs. them” mentality has gone far too far, for far too long. This all comes from the increased “militarization” of our police forces in this country. I just wish I knew how…

Yet all of Europe has vibrantly visible traffic police and they’re doing just fine.

Yeah, it’s utterly asinine that police prioritize “stealth” instead of being a visible part of community (look at police liveries in Europe, for example, which are extremely conspicuous for public and officer safety). These clandestine types of vehicles are just more efficient ways for police departments to fleece the…

As a lady and rural resident, I hate this shit. You want to pull me over for god knows what on some lonesome stretch of highway? Have at it, officer. But have an identifiable vehicle so I will have fewer concerns about you being a serial killer.

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I guess that’s the other thing, shouldn’t there be a mandate to actually make them visible? What if I need a cop to flag down or something else? What about visibility on the side of the road?

This is why I don’t buy the BS that traffic enforcement is for safety. Nobody slows down for an Explorer, everybody slows down for a CVPI with a big light bar on top. This is for catching one person and making money, not for making everybody sit up and play right. Even when they have someone pulled over it still…

Anyone else think the Police should be made more visible, and stop trying to hide from the public?

“To protect and serve. (If you can find us)“

Really, the fact that cops routinely speed (and cause accidents, and arrest the people they hit) in order to stop or respond to minor crimes and incidents proves exactly why the current speed limit regime is bullshit and you’re justified in doing anything and everything to evade it.

The “visible deterrent” notion has been a lie since at least the 80s. The police business model (and make no mistake that is what it is, a business model) is to rack up as many offenses that result in a ticket or an arrest as possible, since those are the metrics they’re measured on.

Yet another example of how the American police view themselves as some kind of occupying military. Why does every police car need to be stealth? Why are we seeing more and more police cars labeled only with impossible-to-read retro-reflective decals on the side of the car matching the car’s paint color? Why do police…

It’s lovely now how we’ve moved from the police being a visible deterrent to being a revenue collecting arm. Europe has bright fluorescent yellow and reflective tape all over their vehicles so people can see them. I also have seen an uptick in reports of people who have been pulled over by “unmarked” vehicles only…

I like how many European cop cars go out of their way to be visible to drivers.

If they’re actually going to use this to catch people committing serious crimes, great. If their intention is to be more stealthy while they sit in the ditch and write speeding tickets instead of doing what they should be doing and dealing with actual crime, then this really pisses me off. Traffic offenses should be…

“for agencies wishing to minimize the presence of their police vehicles”