Very sad. The Tour of the Gila really is a monster.

“You don’t get to decide what is a valid reason.” Is that really what the world has come to? That whoever acts most offended is the sole arbiter of whether something is offensive? And that anybody who questions it is either being dismissive or just a flat out misogynist, because you’re so OBVIOUSLY correct?

I’m not a pull yourself up by your bootstraps type, this has nothing to do with that. I’m pointing out how one can derive strength through adversity—it’s a pretty common, well accepted, notion.

No it doesn’t. I’m not arguing that sexism doesn’t exist, or doesn’t have a real impact on people’s lives. What I am saying is that there’s nothing inherently wrong with a particular article focusing on a group of young men doing some cool shit and not including women in that article. It, on its own, is a silly,…

BTW,

Please tell me more about myself, a black immigrant who grew up in Brooklyn in the 90s, who, five years ago was a broke musician living hand to mouth and today is a public interest attorney. Tell me more about my easy, privileged life.*

I do think it’s wrong, I was attempting to be a kinder in my response.

That’s a lazy response, first two of the six students are not white. Second this actually is an article based on just one self made group. Third while diversity narratives are often inherently positive, faux diversity window dressing doesn’t serve a purpose.

I never said anyone should shut up, I’m asking questions 1) what is the point of the criticism 2) is the criticism in this specific instance meaningful and worthwhile, and 3) what is the overall conclusion, what’s the result that should be reached, what should have been done differently?

Im puzzled as well but this is what you get with penny diversity postings. First this is a self started group of kids, faulting the article for focusing on this group is not diversity advocacy but rather advocacy for picayune window dressing. Second this group does have some diversity, one appears to be East Asian and…

I understand what you’re saying, I still think it’s a clumsy analogy.

My framing the issue as one of comfort was paraphrasing Joanna’s tweet concerning the article, which read “why do women feel uncomfortable in STEM???” I’m not sure what that tells you about me, but we need not reply further if you don’t want to, it’s up to you whether you want to continue this conversation.

No—what I’m saying is that no matter who you are, the world isn’t always going to be nice to you, and its not always going to cater to your individual proclivities; learning to thrive through hardship makes you a stronger person. I am a POC, by the way, and a lawyer, I’ve been there myself, I’ve experienced it first…

Your opinions are wrong—this is nothing like someone dressing up in blackface; its a fucking absurd assertion.

Oh give me a break. For some reason the link to the source is broken for me right now, even from Wired’s site, but it appears that this is about a group of kids at Northwestern, yeah? It’s not about the universe of hackers on the planet.

No, it’s not, not at all. Give me a break. That you would even equate those things is kind of fucking offensive. There’s no similarity to it whatsoever.

No it’s not—a micro-aggression? It’s not targeted at you in any way. Not everything in the world that makes you feel slightly uncomfortable is a micro aggression. And not everyone has to ensure your comfort at all times.

Except it’s not at all like that...wtf? I haven’t read Wired in some time, but they have absolutely had articles featuring women and POC (there are a couple in that picture, in fact). This is a ridiculous argument.

Does it really imply that? Does these young men’s potential to “shape the world,” necessarily exclude other people from having the potential to shape the world? This headline seems like a really silly thing to be up in arms about, sorry.

“The F8 of the Furious”