robinjosephine
robinjosephine
robinjosephine

Why won't you explain? Because you don't want to. Sound logic!

Yes! And this shouldn't be unpopular. That's why I'm amazed somebody claims feminism is "Islamophobic." That word is nonsense anyway. In my opinion and experience, feminists are way too afraid of criticizing Islam because it invariably leads to cultural relativism.

I don't want to Google. I want people who claim that these views are valid to explain them if they claim that they're persuasive.

Hmmmm...I don't know. Anytime somebody, even somebody I've known for a long time, stoops to calling me a Feminazi because they think it's funny and persuasive to compare somebody to a Nazi, I think twice before we actually hang out again.

Then tell me why you think they're valid. Making declarations without reason or proof isn't a valid argument to me.

First of all, I've heard them, I just don't think they're valid. As if white women intend the rights we're looking for to only affect white women. I want to see if someone can articulate them rationally, without relying on tired accusations of racism because somehow people only become concerned with race when

You didn't answer my questions. Projection has nothing to do with this.

Huh? As if there is no history of black feminists? As if issues like abortion, birth control, equal pay, and representation don't affect black women just as much as white?

How is this guy your friend? He sounds like a complete bellend. Why are you friends with ignorant males? Probably time to get rid.

This has to be an amazing troll, because this sounds like a joke.

Well relatively speaking, now is better than any time previously. Women have probably around 30% of speaking parts in movies, but it's better than Shakespearean times when women weren't even allowed on stage.

You've called me arrogant, hateful, bigoted when all I've done is made simple statement of fact about Islamic doctrine...and I'm being "insulting"? I never once returned any insult.

No. Agreement and disagreement occurs over opinion. It is impossible to agree or disagree over facts. Facts are either accepted because a person is intelligent and dealing with reality, or denied because of stupidity and delusion.

How can I respond to such irrational ramblings?

Why, yes, when I've said this to Muslimah "feminists" they usually get very defensive. That is, in Western societies where they can choose to follow what they want of Islam, and then luckily ignore what they don't. Women in Yemen don't have that luxury, it's a benefit of living in a free, non-Islamic society.

Yes, I am quite familiar. I raised the question because the answer is that it's a cheap way to avoid discussion.

By the truth, I mean simple facts. These are not my opinions, but facts from Islamic texts.

Ha ha, how about Hallelujah!

Well, now, this is highly unexpected because I've never seen people react with ad hominems instead of addressing arguments.

As an atheist, I won't defend any Christian church or any other religion. That doesn't change or mitigate Islam, and that is how children argue.