Yeah, this isn’t about feminazis whining that “even in death women get creeped” - this pointing out that even when women are dead, there are guys who will creep them.

Yeah, but it links their legacies together forever. He becomes a footnote on her wikipedia page, she becomes one on his. People who, maybe decades from now, visit her tomb will see his name next to hers and think “huh, so were they like, a thing?” It implies a connection they never had, that he was more legendary than…

Yeah, she’s a brittle skeleton at this point.

Humbled and awed am I by the seed of great wisdom in your alchemical utterances TamTams: they marry flights of delicious ecstasy to logic crisp as whetted glass. I can only bow before you and whisper: but what of the embalming fluid?

She hath traveled beyond the veil, he hath traveled after her. Her earth-bound shell preserved for all time in it’s dank cell. His lifeless frame will eternally molder mere steps away.

TamTams, where is your poetic soul? Your ethereal warp and weft through the strings that symbolically bind us all regardless of time and space? Your gaze upon distant shores in which the first love that stirred your heart is ever vivified in simmering embers? Your most lucid dreams that spirit you to the fourth…

Yup. Gloria Steinem’s piece on her undercover experience was pretty disturbing, too. Someone on twitter was like “Omg but he championed pro-choice rights and supported birth control!” No shit he did, you dolts. He was fucking multiple women at any given time at his creepy mansion, OF COURSE he supported birth control…

The level of not just stanning for this man, but outright worship is as unsurprising as it is sick.

“Better people will remember him for things he has done far beyond a friendship with a good or bad person.”

I think you missed the last bit of that comment: “But choice in this case is also a tricky matter—he contributed to and shaped a culture that objectified women; this culture influenced women as well as men.”

Even in old age he was sharing his bed with women young enough to be his granddaughters. And though he put together some fundraisers in Chicago (1970s) for Jesse’s Operation Push, let’s not be blind.

I can’t help but think of those horrible Playboy Clubs where women in bunny suits would serve drinks as men ogled their bodies. NOT progress, that.

This. I know Holly Madison had a serious axe to grind but I couldn’t help but believe a lot of what she wrote about in Down the Rabbit Hole. Yes, he was a champion of free speech (and civil rights...?) but in the end he kept women hostage and was celebrated for maintaining a chauvinist lifestyle in which women were…

It has been very interesting to see people’s reactions to his passing, to say the very least. I was over on another site and the adulation for his impact and legacy is.........disturbing. I mean. Are we going to act like he didn’t prey upon the insecurities of women? Or that by and large his version of the perfect…

Lol. Spent a lifetime objectifying women, but look at this tweet his social media manager sent one time.

He may not have called them bitches, but he sure as hell didn’t respect them. I will never understand the Hefner apologists - it is no coincidence that Cosby and Hefner were best buddies and at least one of the Cosby rapes happened at the Playboy Mansion.

If literally any other man did this, would we applaud him for being an ‘icon’?

THIS. He took objectification of women to the next level, in a society where that was already the accepted norm.

I will never understand this dude’s popularity with women. The man basically kept a creepy babe-zoo in his house and only supported ‘women’s empowerment’ as long as it fit his idea of women being naked and not being ~prudes~ about it. If literally any other man did this, would we applaud him for being an ‘icon’?

Ugh. That is all I have to say.