Equating alcohol usage to slavery is a bridge too far.

probably the one that didn’t high five all his bros when he got home is the victim.

Meh. I don’t really think sexual assault should be determined by arbitrary lines on a map or the foresight/idiocy of a bunch of rando lawmakers; I’m more concerned about the idea that the discussion of rape culture has devolved to the point that two people sharing sexual enjoyment - by whatever their self-determined…

Exactly! Getting drunk to the point of unconsciousness is a choice you need to think through. Have a game plan, have people that you can trust to take care of you, make sure your in an area that’s safe enough to stumble home.

Oh dear. No alcohol, AND no kinky sex? What kind of monster are you?

Well I’d argue that alcohol is a lot more a part of human society (Seriously... the invention of alcohol predates freaking farming!) so phasing it out of society is going to be quite difficult.

Any consent is consent regardless of mental state to me. If she says “no” of course I will stop but silence is acceptance.

Because while I don’t have fun drinking, plenty of other people do. I would be perfectly okay with prohibition, but I’m not stupid and I know our society would riot over it. I long ago acknowledged that I’m not the “Norm” for society.

And no, you can’t choose to be raped. But you can choose whether or not to consent to…

How he’s putting it isn’t great, but he does have a certain point. Kind of like those people who go to war torn countries on vacations and end up dead. What did they expect?

Umm... I have a history of depression and even attempted suicide when I drink. I go months between drinks and strictly limit myself on the rare occasion I do. That’s part of why I’m such a lightweight and how I know I am.
You’re making judgements about me regarding things you have no knowledge of.

So you’ve been arguing all this time without any understanding of how and why people - hundreds of millions of people - use alcohol?

KaraThrace probably hasn’t raped anyone, but it’s clear they are very insecure about their intelligence and are incapable of considering that other people [even, gasp, women] have different perspectives. Dumbest folks yell the loudest.

Of course, i’m not talking about rape or victims, i’m talking about people who like to get drunk and have sex with each other. In regards to this swimmer dude, I’m just pointing out that there were other people who I’m sure would have loved to have sex with him that he could have picked up with a trivial amount of…

That’s a teen? Is she a TV show teen or an actual teen teen because she looks like she’s pushing 30 to me.

Who is the rest of us? I can’t say for you but I live in a society that has been drinking and fucking for 200+ years? Way, WAY longer than that if you apply it to the rest of the world. The last time we tried to remove drinking the majority of our society opposed it, at times quite violently. Pretty sure most of the…

Just for giggles, when two people are blackout drunk, how do you determine who’s the victim and who’s the assailant?

Why someone would want to? I have no idea. But people do. All. The. Time. Both sexes. People drink, people hook up. I’ve seen it happen, I’ve had it happen in my own house. I have had partners, male and female, who get frisky as hell when they drink. This is a common behavior at some parties.
Alcohol does not equal…

How do you know when someone is blackout drunk and at what point is someone too drunk? If they say yes, do you have to get a blood test to know if they are allowed to say yes? When is it ok to trust the words coming out of someone’s mouth. If two people are black out drunk and they have sex, did they both rape each…

No, Fuck you.

Naw - it’s not date rape when both people achieve their intended conclusion.