This is where I point out that, as a human being, I definitely fail the worst in terms of ethics when it comes to my decisions as a consumer. And not just with clothing: Hershey’s chocolate is produced in part with child slave labor; the NFL has a huge woman problem and is morally regressive; the NFL owners are all…

I’m less worried about the cost of the clothing, than the fact that there are people who depend on those sweatshop jobs to feed their families. What can we do to actually improve their work conditions and their lives?

A much more reasonable and helpful suggestion would be to ban imported clothing, and only allow american made to be sold in america, but I know a reasonable and helpful suggestion is not what you were going for...

Admittedly it’s not something that I know much about, but what I meant was that it’s a false equivalency because with clothing and fashion, ethics and finances run opposite to each other (more ethical clothing means more expensive clothing), whereas here that particular issue doesn’t exist. Unless I am completely…

ew. why do people think they’re so superior to every animal? you know they have a whole world you can’t see, smell, and hear right?

“But a human life is worth that of - what, 10, 100, 1000 puppies?” the fuck? Humans suck and are not even worth 1 puppy. Get out of here, animal hater.

I’ll take a puppy over a asshole who starts shooting people from the 32nd floor of a hotel resort.

Have you not seen the deplorable conditions of puppy mills? Were you also snarky when California made it legal to break car windows if they see a animal in heat distress?

Oh I wasn’t aware that sweat shop workers were forced to live in cages and forced to breed until they die.

Because clothes aren’t thinking feeling being who we have biologically engineered to bond to us. You sociopath.

We actually have Federal laws that are based on the working conditions in factories, that do so by banning clothes (or products) that are made in unacceptable environments and fining violators. Democrats have historically sought to add such conditions to trade deals, too. As a nation, though, we lack the political…

Hey, knew-jerk reaction guy - turns out California does a lot to help people also. And it helps animals. What, a giant state with a lot of resources can help both people and animals?! Yes, yes it can.

Round of applause for weak ass troll of the day

Also I am not so sure if a human life is worth ANY amount of puppies. You’ll be hard pressed to find a more perfect example of pure, undistilled GOOD in the world, than a wonderful loving dog. They truly are wonderful remarkable animals and deserve to be treated well.

So basically unless they can put forward a “This Fixes Every Problem” Bill they shouldn’t bother fixing anything.

And I agree with that sentiment. I think it’s a lot more complicated, because if you outlaw clothing (which, clothing is a necessity) from sweatshops, suddenly clothing becomes a lot more expensive. That is the ethical thing, but the ethics and the economics run in completely opposite directions. Here, we can use the…

good luck with that. the clothing industry and retail lobby will never let it happen.

Fun fact: we Californians can focus on and accomplish several tasks simultaneously...sooooooo thanks I guess? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yep, Midwestern states (excluding Illinois) have the wooooorst regulation regarding animals. That’s why almost all the puppy mills in the country are located there.

The Amish dog sellers (many to pet stores)around the Midwest are the worst, cramming breeder dogs into cages in locked up barns for years and just wearing them out, litter after litter. There’s an awful Boston Terrier guy, notorious for sick dogs, he has hundreds at a time, but the state rules are so lax on inspection…