yeah i think any which way you slice it, electric is the way to go.... i have a stupid 100 mile round trip commute with traffic right now.... and when i get off the freeway, couple miles from my house... the last thing i wanna do is pay another $70 to stop at a gas station for gas and waste another 5 min just standing…

why not a GMC motorhome?

idk man, those P80's had really damn comfortable seats, probably the best ive ever owned... but much like all plastic of the 90's, the plastic in mine was definitely starting to fall apart.

if you ever wanna make these things really really fun, you can stick 275 wide tires under them.... (this is the 2000 S70 2.3L T5 manual with LSD, 2004 short block, 98 head, 98 ECU, C70 Subframe, Corvette C4 wheels, with homemade suspension, and power steering pump from a 2006 mini)

As much as i love these things, I can attest to the fragility of these things... we’ve gone thru 2 turbo motors on the race car (2000 S70 rewired and modified back to 98). we’re putting an N/A motor back in, which i will say is pretty much idiot proof.

the way the weather station measures temperature is in a shaded box... so their temp isnt necessarily representative of what you’re feeling when youre sitting on the backtop either... theyre all gonna have their own inaccuracies depending on where you measure.

honestly wasnt our first pick lol... but when we got the price, nobody else was able to come close... as a car, it’s fine, but as a toyota, its certainly been a disappointment.

after lease + buyout + tax on buyout, it comes to $32k all said and done. which for a $45k (before tax) vehicle, it wasnt too bad.

so the charger is being Challenged by electrical issues?

we bought one... we arent toyota people, but with the closeouts and toyota trying to dump them, it was absolutely the cheapest new EV we could get our hands on... and for that it was worth it.

I think one thing that needs to be factored in is the tax credits.... once you factor a tax credit, the depreciation is nearly moot.....

based on the vantage point and what im guessing to be a saddle pack, yes....

i get where your head is at, but i just feel like $20k would be still a tall risk...

Whatever my time estimate is.... double it.... and then double it again....

I 2nd this... my best work is done between “dinner will be ready in 30.” and “i’m going to bed, you’re an asshole.”

the way they say they need to build those LFP batteries in the USA to hit hte $25k makes me think the $25k is actually $32,500 before the $7500 rebate. and they’ll likely launch with a higher end one at probably $40k is my guess.

We got a BZ4x it was the cheapest option by like $5k.

The price.

To be honest, most bikes under $400 new are unsafe to ride. The functional equivalent of a $18,000 car would be like a $600 bicycle. That’ll get you A to B. If you wanna do something with off road capabilities, much like a car, you’ll probably spend double that for absolute most barebones starters. $1200 to…

I used to take the bus home (i lived 5 miles away and my parents would drop me off in the AM)... and as an asthmatic these things were horrible to sit in.... one school year, the bus system fucked up and dint have my name on the roster to get home. so while they sorted that out, my parents dropped me off the next day…