0 K is what you’re feeling. There are no negatives when referring to Kelvin as the temperature reading.

Seriously, the is the internet. If people can’t name-call with the maturity of a toddler, then why are they even here?

As resident expert on all things Faux I hereby approve of the Kelvin Timeline and cannot wait for the next movie.

If Michael and Denise Okuda says that’s the name, that is good enough for me. I will use it here on out. We have so much to thank those two for.

Still going to watch the movie though right ;)

Like a pinch on the neck from Mr. Spock

And yet you’re here posting about it and probably intend on watching the movie regardless. So, my reply is.... “more pointless whining.”

Have you watched a Star Trek movie... like ever? They are all like this! The revisionism of Trek fandom is mind numbing. Every movie is an action laden set piece loaded adventure film EXCEPT Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Hell TOS was a largely action laden adventure piece. I’m sorry, yeah TNG introduced a lot more…

I’d take an action sequence filmed well over the Nemesis buggy.

Cause you know, Generations, First Contact, and Nemesis were not mindless action.

Shit. I’m going to now just be so inconsolably sad whenever Chekov is on screen. He better not die in the movie, too. I don’t think I could take that.

Yeah, you say that, but.... the two reboot movies are listed as #1 and #4 on the box office chart - even after adjusting for inflation.

I actually think these things are perfectly reasonable for a company trying to protect the golden goose.

Exactly. They tried to set up their own goddamn movie studio by basically stealing the Trek IP and making their own independent movies. They thought they could get away with it as long as they slapped a “fan film” label on them.

GOOD.

The Axanar folks need to shoulder the lion’s share of the blame for this. Until their blatant cash grab antics, Star Trek fan films were pretty much left to do their own things. One person (or one group of people) doing something stupid can often ruins things for others.

Thanks, Obama, er, I mean Axanar.

Are the guidelines for Star Wars Fan Films considered similarly ‘onerous’? Because from what I can see, these are almost identical to those and Star Wars fans seem to do okay.

This just reads as the people who make money off the brand are trying to protect it from being sullied by the plebes who really are doing it for love of the universe/characters/stories. I get where Paramount is coming from because it’s their product, but it’s not like people are going to download a fan movie and then…

honestly this is fair - if your ambitions are bigger than what CBS and Paramount have set forth here, then maybe just make your own original property.