haha yes, actually you have been. And it didn’t take much. You have a thick head, or maybe you should actually read before you comment. I’ll say it again, it’s not mine or anyone else’s responsibility to provide job insurance for these salesman. Nobody is going to end up homeless here. What planet do you live on where…

Yes I do. In summary; put your money where your mouth is and go buy a VW 3 grand over sticker. After you do that come talk, and try to convince people to do the same.

You seriously need to dig your head out of the sand. You really think car salesman have nothing to do with exorbitant prices on high demand cars. They have full capabilities to set the price on a car and get it cleared by the manager. I don’t see those salesman loosing any sleep over “being forced” to sell cars at…

Excuse me, what’s the markup on a Hellcat these days? 20 fucking grand!? haha So it’s ok for dealers to take advantage of consumers, but it’s wrong for consumers to take advantage of a market in their favor? Yea right. What do you expect, people to give away their hard earned money? “No that price is too low, here’s…

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Yea because car salesman are always so concerned with overcharging customers.

What the hell. I live like 10 minutes away from this. Didn’t know about it. Dammit.

Are you kidding me!? Jesus Christ Toyota! I’m over Toyota and this pipe dream. Stick to your Camry and SUV’s and stop even pretending you want to produce something passionate again. Meanwhile everybody else needs to stop talking about it. The Supra is one of my favorite cars but i’m sick of hearing about this. Write…

Seriously, one of my first thoughts: “Harry, i’m not going faster; everybody else is going slower”. Is the field really that spread out that this is what happens when a front runner ends up in the rear?

ok so it’s obvious this thread for you has turned in to you just stereotyping people who buy BMW’s more than anything else. I’m not here to defend the world of BMW. Carry on thinking whatever you want. Hopefully somebody close to you can convince you one day that this is really not a good look for you.

So you just made my point. Your family made the mistake of buying beat up cars (how you know that I have no idea), unless your family willing bought them knowing this information. But I digress, there you have admitted 2 BMW’s were treated poorly and ran for 7 years. Your Altima ran for 9. Do you think you’re making a…

haha so because two cars share a basic chassis you decide to just replace one for the other in the middle of a very specific discussion about one of those cars? Jesus, you must be a joy to get in to detailed discussions with. Yes I stand corrected, anybody would be out of their mind to drive a 335i when they could…

Altima? Um, this discussion is about the Maxima. Regardless, I don’t think you’re following the main points of this thread closely enough anyway. Even if you stayed on topic, nobody is talking about sales numbers. Ford sold 90 million F series’ last year. So do they compete with a 3 series or C class as well? In…

Not sure what you mean by “new” BMW. A CPO is a BMW certified used car. Depending on HOW new the car is will determine how much warranty you get from BMW. If you buy a 1 year old car, then you should theoretically get 5 years of BMW service for free. Yes, after that, like any car, you will have to start paying out of…

Valid question. I am referring to mostly the looks of the car. But somehow I doubt it handles like a champ. What is that thing the size of a 7 series by now? Also the FWD granny shift tranny is a big clue. I really wish the Maxima was still a good option. Decent power at a decent price. It would be all over my list of…

What’s my point? You just made a point about having to deal with repair cost’s from the previous driver if you buy a used BMW. A CPO BMW adds a couple of years on top of the original warranty (which almost certainly will have time left on the clock), which means that you aren’t paying a dime in repair costs for at…

It’s called CPO. They give longer warranties than new cars.

Hence the idea of being able to afford something far nicer than that shit box up there. Maxima’s used to be sweet little rides, then Nissan totally shit the bed and ran them into the ground.

Sorry, not good looking at all. They fucked up the Maxima years back and it’s obvious it will not be saved in ‘16.

India is such a fucking shit show of barbaric shit hole excuses for human beings.