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reason077

The catalysts needed for the chemical reaction have typically been large, heavy and very expensive. Costs have gone done, but they remained high enough that installing infrastructure was (perhaps rightly) viewed as pointless.

Uh, no infrastructure for re-fueling and very limited vehicle range when full? Plus high energy consumption to make the hydrogen fuel. Even stubborn Toyota is finally starting to give up on fuel cells. They don’t make sense and never will.

It’s not functionally identical to gasoline, is the problem: it’s _really_ hard to safely ship and store.

...Lack of refueling infrastructure? I thought that was the well-known problem with H2-powered cars?

They’re less energy-efficient overall, too, but that first issue is the big one. Considering the stranglehold Hyundai maintain on the KDM, it’s surprising the Korea’s hydrogen refueling infrastructure is even a bit back

Is that how you keep Jerry out of Algiers?

30 minutes supercharger vs 5 minutes for gas. Its not that much more.

To be fair though, variable speed reversible Alternating Current motors (like Tesla uses) are a relatively modern invention. Modern enough that there are still MANY in-service elevators that have an AC motor coupled to a DC generator that runs a DC motor to raise and lower the cab in the shaft. Varying speed in a DC

You see Teslas now and then as taxis in Sweden. Usually driving for one of the big companies (=decently priced rides).
Whenever I’m in Oslo I see Tesla taxis everywhere. But then you see Teslas everywhere there. I was passing all way through Oslo (it’s not a big city, only 600.000 inhabitants) in moderate afternoon

Yes and because we’ve used electric motors throughout an exhaustive list of applications we were able to use our knowledge from those applications to get to this point. Now we are at a point where we’re working out the kinks and building up a long standing infrastructure. Consider how incredible this moment is. Ten

What down time?

Dude. How long have we been on the ICE tit? over 100 years? This is new technology, this is impressive. Give it a second.

Absolutely... Notice how your car is probably quite a bit louder than when it was new? That is probably those poor wheel bearings crying out for mercy.

Yep. And Tesla replaced them free of charge within 24 hours. Which sounds very impressive.

The really ironic bit is the “vroom” sound the 330e makes as it drives away in the first ad. It reminds us that this isn’t a real electric vehicle at all, it’s a plug in hybrid with an all-electric range that’s so poor it’s nearly pointless.

Was that... engine noise?

Also out of curiosity i built out a 330e on their website. It’s not too much cheaper than my Model S 60 equivalently set up... and I’d still need to budget some gas for the BMW so it’s pretty much a wash...
A model 3 will be a much cheaper car than this

For reference (lease 15000 miles/year,