I still don’t get it. They aren’t rounding up every brown person and sticking them in camps. They are removing people who are in the country illegally. If there’s a problem, then it’s with the current immigration laws and rules, but you can’t decide which laws you do and don’t follow. The laws as they stand say deport…

Yeah, calm down the hysteria a bit. They ain’t shoving people in ovens, they are following the law and deporting people who are in the country illegally.

I’m not quite sure I understand. They are doing their job and were doing it with the same zeal during the past presidencies where little comment was made. Certainly nowhere near the level of hysteria as there is here now.
At the end of the day, your country has laws. These people are simply enforcing the laws and are…

Okay, but I can say for sure that those figures depend on a great many factors. My daughter broke her arm, badly, she was seen immediately, arm x-rayed, operated on and fixed and she was back home the next day.
My dad went to his Dr with a cough, she considered it serious and two days later he was at the hospital for…

Charlie Gard, the kid with the delusional parents who wasted a hell of a lot of resources that could have gone to children who had a chance of living, that Charlie Gard? You can’t possibly use that as justification for keeping government out of healthcare. That situation was terrible, but the parents were unable to…

Yep, right there with you. All during the christmas period I was down with flu. Best thing I found was a tablespoon of honey mixed in with warm water. Did wonders for my throat, easing the pain from the cough I developed.
Even with -essentially free - healthcare, I didn’t go to the hospital or doctors though, because…

This is my thinking exactly. I’ve worked since I was 16, I’ve had at most, a month and a half out of work since then. Even if I hadn’t been ill this past year, I know that I am unlikely to be out of work too much in my remaining working years. I still don’t resent the taxes and contributions that mean others are able…

The problem with the US model is that the private insurers want to make money. A lot of it. So they gouge the customer and they argue about paying for anything and avoid making payments where they can.
I prefer the UK Model and realistically, if you have 80% of people who eat a Tide pod ending up in hospital, I’m…

Aye, it seems to be the magic number doesn’t it.

I’ve had people making that exact argument to me as though they were scoring a point against me. Seriously! I would happily wait a few weeks for non-urgent treatment and keep the few grand for myself.

It does vary. I can call my Dr and have an appt that day, if it’s none urgent I can make the appt for no more than two weeks away and usually a lot less. When I have been sent to see consultants for non-urgent needs, it has been no more than six weeks. When my relatives have needed to see someone for something…

Thank you for replying and saving me the time of laying it out. You did so excellently.

With more people paying into the system you would have more money to ensure it gets to everyone. It’s not that hard. Hell, most governments could fund it entirely if they stopped buying shiny new toys to bomb other countries.

Any that do will lose their party the election. It’s a simple as that. If the TOries really try, then come election time Corbyn will come along, say, “We’ll make sure the NHS isn’t privatised” and win easily.

Worse than that, they will happily contribute to a gofundme for a pets vet treatment or to send someone to missionary camp or whatever, but clutch their purse tighter than a squirrel with a nut, if you suggest they pay towards universal health care.

So much this. Like education, healthcare should be regulated and free to all citizens simply because it means those citizens will be their most productive. They will increase the wealth of the country simply by being well educated, leading to better paying employment and healthy, meaning they can work and pay taxes…

My father was a roofer. He worked outdoors most of his life. When the building trade tanked in the eighties/nineties, he worked for the railways or labouring. Most of his illnesses in later life were a direct result of his working life... and in the US, he wouldn’t have been able to afford the insurance to pay for…

You might get the occasional person that happens to, but in reality it doesn’t happen often. Usually, when assessed, if they think you need it sooner rather than later, you are placed higher on the list.
My step-mother required her stomach removing to beat the cancer. She had a couple of weeks wait and that was to…

What is your problem with this? I mean, you no doubt pay for private health insurance anyway. You likely spend a heck of a lot more on that than I do on my contributions, so what is wrong?
Pay a smaller amount to the government who take what is needed to keep the service running or pay to a private company that will…

Sounds horrendous to be honest. I know that just the fairly minor ailments I had this year needed testing to get to the source of the problem and it would have cost more than I could afford if I was in the US.