
Or a better chant:
Or a better chant:
There’s nothing disingenuous about shifting a rhetorical framework. Lensing ideas through different paradigms is a very useful way of discovering quirks that were in YOUR OWN preferred position and outlook. That the author’s and your outlook happen to align does not validate that outlook above any others presented.
The point is disingenuous in the first place because it shifts the entire rhetorical framework to serve a preferred position and outlook. Fighting games are, by their nature, a spectator activity (wherein spectators are present, anyway). Callouts, shit-talk, and the like have been part of the culture since the days of…
This. Imagine ANYWHERE else that a heckling fan constitutes a do-over. I feel for the shitty situation, I really do but he let it get to him and reacted that way on his own.
Agreed, if the competitor was being bona fide harassed and the tournament officials were doing nothing, I think the competitor has the right to walk away. This is just standard jeering, claiming it's "coaching" is ridiculous.
Christ, you’re a walking primer on rhetorical fallacies.
Take that disingenuous strawman shit somewhere it’ll be appreciated.
Right, but that’s guided, one-on-one coaching.
“Friendly advice” is howled from the stands by pretty much every fan in an arena at all times, and isn’t considered to be crossing a line.
Different situations, different play setups—false analogy is false.
Also, the FGC grew out of arcades. Not sure how old you are, but it really doesn’t matter—go to any arcade and get into a heavy match with someone, then bitch about folks around you yelling out advice.
You tell me how that goes.
That moment when a person’s hand of cards or concealed location in a game wherein the character’s location is -not obvious- to the opponent (as it would be in Smash) is somehow considered analogous to what happened here.
God help your Rhet/Comp professor--or at least their liver.
Agreed, fans just shout strategies and things to do at players all the time. Sometimes they’re right - often they’re wrong. But it’s just what audiences do. If you have a grievance with it then it’s something you air between matches or behidn the scenes. You don’t stop playing in the middle. That should have been…
If there is one place where there isn't much grey I'd say it's "getting up in the middle of a match and walking off constitutes a forfeiture."
yeah, that should’ve disqualified him
I guess forfeits don’t exist in the smash community? I’m sorry but if you can’t handle the heckling then maybe you shouldn’t be a pro player. Would Lebron James walk off the court and leave the game if some fan was yelling at him on how to make a jump shot? would they pause the game for an hour to get him back in?…
Yeah 90 minutes of deliberation confuses me. If you wanted to be treated like a sport, than behave like it’s a sport. You get up and walk away, you just forfeited, tough shit.
Depending on the reason, I’d say he might be entitled to a rematch (open harassment/threats/etc.), but his complaint aligns with what fans of competitive pursuits do all the goddamned time in other arenas (shouting advice—and this is in the NCAA, NFL, NBA, MLS, etc.).
Dude needs to grow a thicker skin and develop a…
Imagine this happening in any other sport. LeBron stepped off court because the fans kept yelling SHOOOOT!
Agreed. That calls for disqualification, as far as I would be concerned.
He got up and walked away. He wasn’t entitled to a do-over. Simple as that.