“Who in the hell is this Democrat-come-lately to scold Democrats on all they’ve done wrong?”
“Who in the hell is this Democrat-come-lately to scold Democrats on all they’ve done wrong?”
“Their reasoned choice??”
You already heard it: various people voted for Trump for various reasons. There’s no simple answer.
Those who voted for both Trump and Obama, by no means the majority of either Trump or Obama voters, likely did so for a range of reasons including seeing each of those men as the lesser evil at the time, or because…
I think slavery is legal as long as you get a conviction first...
This is the discussion that is had constantly on Giz... it just doesn’t get a lot of attention because the discussion typically begins and ends with “you first”.
But....they are taking it personally.
And you’re essentially saying that, even though they won, Trump supporters should follow the losing side’s agenda?
Given some of your other replies, it does seem you fall on the opposite end of many issues from me. Perhaps, in a less volatile climate, we could have some interesting discussions. Anyhow, given your references elsewhere to the media and principle of self interest, I’d like to point out that a vote of self interest…
Quote #8. We decided, as a culture, quite a long time ago that we could eliminate some consequences. And then more. And then more. Until now we have a competition between two political parties whose platforms are the elimination of the consequences their partisans don’t like.
Those are the discussions you’ll never, ever see on gizmodo.
One could, if one wants to beg the question.
Two things. First, you are very correct; a large part of what is currently going on is due to the breakdown of dialogue over the last long period of time. And it is true that Gizmodo, or in fact online forums in general, are a terrible place to have these discussions, due to the difficulty of finding anyone who is…
That is some Top Shelf Philosophizing my good man!
“In a very simple sense, it’s dehumanizing them and dismissing their reasoned choice “
63+ million people voted for themselves and their best interest as opposed to the interest of someone else. That’s the most basic human response possible from us. That’s also the problem, as in it is a base reason, without any of the higher thinking we like to believe that we do on a daily basis. While it isn’t murder…
The big difference between a lot of the pre-election projections that showed Trump losing and the actual numbers that saw him winning weren’t low-income, low-education voters. He was projected to be the first Republican candidate to lose college-educated whites, and he ended up winning both men and women in that group…
...why a substantial portion of the populace is becoming disenchanted with said social contract?
You’re presuming the other 65 million are somehow thrilled with the current state of things - that is obviously not true. But their solution is not “burn it all down” but rather “let’s improve what we have.”
Hmmm. And you don’t think any of the things you mentioned would occur with Clinton as president.
Now that a Republican is in office it’s time for the media to get tough on our officals! Where were you the last eight years?