Yes but CA also has the largest population by state in the US and would wield the highest amount of influence in a popular vote election. They already have 55 electoral votes that go to the Democrats practically every time.
Yes but CA also has the largest population by state in the US and would wield the highest amount of influence in a popular vote election. They already have 55 electoral votes that go to the Democrats practically every time.
But the electoral college only puts equality on a handful of people in a select number of swing states, and that’s ridiculous. I voted for Hillary Clinton in Alabama, and my vote didn’t matter. I voted for Barack Obama in DC and California in 2008 and 2012, and my vote didn’t matter in either of those places. The only…
Your initial post is weird and counter-factual. “We’re more equal than you” is actually the status of flyover country, and the coasts have less than a full vote per person, even though all those people are real citizens and fully-formed humans too. Eliminating the electoral college doesn’t give those people more…
It existed as a way for small states to not be ruled by the tyranny of the majority
States themselves would cease to have any power if we abolish the electoral college. Every single voter’s ballot would count equally no matter what state they lived in. Currently, candidates don’t even campaign in certain states because of the electoral college and other states pretty much get to decide the vote. That…
That is not entirely true. There is the National Popular Vote Compact that would only require 270 electoral college votes worth of states to agree to direct their electors to vote for the person that won the popular vote. It would need ratification by Congress, but I think it would be through simple majority.
That’s not the point of the electoral college. The electoral college was originally intended to be a deliberate body, because riff raff like you were not considered smart enough to make such an important decision as who becomes president.
The electoral college was also supposed to be a check on the American public electing an unqualified person who might trample on the rights of minorities (http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-reason-for-the-electoral-college/). So the electors would actually be fulfilling their function if they elected Hillary Clinton…
Which they should. Think about how weird an argument you’re making — the state with most people shouldn’t have the most say.
The founding fathers also only intended for land-owning white males to be able to vote. Maybe they weren’t perfect and it’s ok for us, 240 years later, to change some of their antiquated shit?
Why shouldn’t more people outweigh fewer people? Why should rural votes count for more than urban votes?
Yes I have absolutely been against the EC since the 2000 Election scarred my view of democracy. And the fact the the EC has put a grossly unqualified, unexperienced, racist, ignorant, mysoginist, orange lump into office only magnifies my view many, many times over. If the EC had put someone like Paul Ryan, or nearly…
If anything the electoral college disenfranchises red voters who live in blue states and blue voters who live in red states. More than 40% of Texas voters chose Clinton. Between 30-40% of California, Illinois and New York voters went for Trump. America has bad voter participation rates at least in part because the…
It was put in place as a compromise so that states with primarily agrarian economies wouldn’t have less power than states with more industrial economies.
If you want to get rid of the electoral college and allow the popular vote prevail, than that is one thing, but if we go down that road, we are undermining one of the checks and balances the founding fathers integrated into our system, and we need to have an honest discussion about that.
I mean, we either believe in electing the president through one vote per person or we don’t. NY and CA didn’t launch an evil plot to have more people than other states, that’s just how it is. As far as the little guy not having a voice: States still have rights, as evidenced by some states being allowed to teach…
I’m not sure of the point you’re trying to make but the Electoral College results in my California vote being far less equal in comparison to the votes of citizens in less populous states. They don’t always have the best answers in Wyoming or Alaska.
Literally only the east coast existed when the Madison put the electoral into the constitution. It was put in place as a compromise so that states with primarily agrarian economies wouldn’t have less power than states with more industrial economies.
“He won the vote”.....He won, but he didn’t win the vote. Saying “the American people spoke” in favor of Trump is patently untrue.