Why used? This is a car that isn’t going to depreciate much, and used buyers will put a premium on buying a one-owner car. So you get the double-whammy of paying the one-owner car premium, but then selling it as a not-first owner.

These things are way less pointless and stupid than, say, a Corvette. This thing can haul twice as many people plus luggage, but also drive around a race track. You can use it in the snow or on shitty roads. Given the resources (not cost) it takes to build a vehicle, it’s pointless and stupid to not maximize the…

How many people are really going to take their $260,000 super-sports SUV to rallycross? Roughly as many as will take theirs to a track day, which is to say extremely few.

Shops will buy diagnostic software from Ford, same as shops do now, and the same as they have done for 20 years.

I don’t own a truck and I don’t really want one, but everyone here CLEARLY doesn’t understand them.

fairly mechanically reliable,

These weren’t misunderstood. They just weren’t as good as the competition.

This is not a lifestyle accessory for your morning commute

The V6 that it got was just as powerful and more efficient than the contemporary 318, but it would have been better received with the latter.

Ford has to do this.

but for reference this M2 weighs as much as a GTR,

You’ll probably be paying more than if you bought it new. These kinds of BMW have a habit of holding their value too well. Go look up prices on an 07 135i, then consider they MSRPed at 36k.

And the final nail in the coffin for me is that it weighs 3800 lbs! Like holy crap, how did they make it that heavy???

You could give any muscle car from the Sixties/early Seventies a drive and experience a thrill unlike any other.

The new M2 is going to be substantially bigger than the Supra. From the reports Ive see, the wheelbase is 11" longer.

I’m digging the face, and the hips, and the ass.  Oddly, I really love the doors on this.

The only thing I believe keeping it from greatness is it doesn’t sound very good.

The Ford/Mazda/Jag Cyclone V6.

Mechanically, it’s not the worst. There’s a 5.0-liter Coyote V8 under the hood,

Alas, that was the end of Giorgio-powered Dodge muscle. I can’t help but laugh at the notion that FCA actively chose not to make its flagship cars better,