What BMW can tow 7,000 lbs? Towing is a lot more about engine cooling and brakes than torque.

They are getting rid of the 8ft bed on the regular cab? Bit disappointing, but I don't seem to see very many of them.

That doesn't seem like a lot of money for the top of the range. You get a top-notch interior with great features and good-ol' Ford parts that will be stocked nearly everywhere for years and years to come. Sure, it's a truck, so it doesn't drive like a BMW, but a BMW can't pull your 7,000 lbs boat and fetch a two…

What is the purpose of it then?

Yeah, I'm failing to see the purpose. Why not just get a motorcycle. "Because track days!" is what people will say. Well guess what, I hope you are wearing your helmet and brought money for lunch, because when you and your buddy show up you'll have no where to put any extra stuff.

It was somewhere around here that I didn't mind so much...

Does it have the sound piped in through the speakers? Just turn that up and most would think it's faster.

And I'm guessing they weigh more than the L99's as well.

No. Pretty much anything will bend if stick dumb enough drivers behind the wheel. Nothing wrong with the Raptor besides some of the people that drive them.

None. End of discussion. If you need less power, walk.

Europe typically cares more about carbon monoxide, various hydrocarbons and non-methane hydrocarbons. There is a regulation for NOx standards, but California's is more strict in that department. California is also probably more strict when it comes to particulate.

But it also has 3 more liters, probably uses more gas. You seem to be valuing lack of turbos, number of cams and injection point over efficiency. Also, look how flat and wide the torque curve is on the AMG.

Are you dense? I was simply saying that the AMG is heavier, because of the turbos. You said to take them away. That's not how it works, just like you can't take away 3 liters from the LS7.

Ugggg. Tell me how much that small block makes when it's cut down to 4 liters. That's right, it was putting out a paltry 200 hp and 235 lb-ft when it was 4.3 liters.

The "S3+1"

460 lbs including turbos. An LS7 weighs ~455 lbs. It doesn't have heavy ass turbos.

So now I've got to bribe people just to get warranty shit done? Yeah, that's awesome!

F30 is successor to E90 which is successor to E46 which is successor to E36 which is successor to E30. Why not just cut the crap and say the F30 is the successor of the E30, which is really is.

The M235i does it in 5.0 seconds.

Well, what separated the M3 from a regular 3 series (or for the most part, other sport sedans besides the Cxx AMG the RS4 and eventually the CTS-V) was the speed. There is nothing that separates the M235i over a simple hot hatch besides being RWD. There is virtually nothing that separates the M235i over a V6/V8…