More road courses, less ovals/squares/eggs/circles/rectangles...

But... it isn't a union. They aren't fighting for rights as owners. From the sound of it, it looks like they are trying to do things like save money buy "buying in bulk" (industry-wide travel partners), or pooling data and brain power to work through technical issues. I see it as AT&T joining with Verizon, TMobile…

Yeah... for our "safety."

Just drove from NY to LA. I always thought NY had horrible left-lane hogs. Well, California was the worst. 4-lanes of traffic in each direction, and everyone going the same speed regardless of the lane. What malarkey.

A "long dirt farm road" is a road. It's got the word "road" right in it. That's not off-roading.

What kind of vodka do you suggest with Almas caviar?

Hopped up 12C? Oh.... kay?

Not with that attitude.

So has the Dodge Viper and Chevrolet Corvette. I hope you wouldn't consider those muscle cars.

The bicycle and motorcycle industry has been welding aluminum for years. The problem isn't aluminum to aluminum connections. It's the aluminum to steel/other material connections. You've got to worry about catalytic rusting along with a good strong hold/bond. That's the issue.

While the Hurst is a Mopar, that doesn't mean it's a muscle car. I'm not sure how many people consider the Hurst 300 a muscle car. It's nearly 19ft long. It was also very affordable compared to the Mercedes. The original MSRP was about $5,800.

I heard Maserati GranTurismo...

No. The Red Pig was a one (well, three/five depending on who's counting) off race car. That's what it was. It was built to race at the 24 hours of Spa. I don't believe it was even street legal any more. It doesn't matter it was based off an SEL. Saying it is a street car first is almost like saying a DTM car is…

What the sell for now doesn't change the fact that they are muscle cars. Just because a nice Model T costs more today than it did back then doesn't change the fact it was one of the first affordable vehicles people could purchase.

I don't care where it comes from. They started with a car that costs $36,000 if I get the base stripper model (the price that is currently "muscle car" territory prices), added a ton of shit, then proceeded to charge $500,000. That is super car territory. Not muscle car.

Never mentioned anything about it being limited to USA. But the red pig isn't a muscle car. That's a race car.

It fits no muscle car formula. A muscle car isn't just adding more power. It was a car with big power numbers for a low cost. Not a $500,000 luxury tuner car.

$500,000 price tag? And it's got a lot of money invested in making it turn and it actually turns quite well. Muscle cars had nothing invested in the suspension. You got the same (or nearly the same) set up as if you got the base model. The only difference were things like engines, transmissions, stickers on the…

A C-Class starts at ~$36,000. For that price I should be able to buy the "muscle car" not the entry level. Muscle cars were (at the time) cheap performance. There wasn't much luxurious about them. For $36,000 I can get a nicely equipped new "muscle car" from Ford. The Brabus Bullit is a half-million dollar…

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