This is exactly why they all died out the first time. People just said “screw it, it’s 2 grand more on a long term loan.” Which is basically zero impact on them long term. Their gas mileage wasn’t significantly better and it meant less capability. If they are buying the pickup, they may as well go all in giving the…

Safety is a big part of it. I look at the doors of my new F-150 and they seem darn close to a foot thick. My ‘89 Isuzu on the other hand seems about an inch (exaggerating of course, but there is a huge difference).  Add in the width of American asses and everybody wants a center console it seems, and boom, 7' wide.

During the last production run of Dakotas, it was cheaper to get a 1500 due to the incentives and better residuals, and they had the same fuel economy. That’s why it died last time.

If we weren’t supposed to eat pangolins, why do they look like walking artichokes?

However, based on the contents of this thread, we can intuit that 99.989% of Jalopnik readers who selected long-term auto loans are shrewd investors who widely invested the money they did not spend in their auto loan each month. Further, these Jalopnik readers are all disciplined spenders who paid off their long-term…

By invested they mean spending like a drunken congressman

Bingo, everyone commenting here understands (and may even have the ability) paying off a loan early. The majority of buyers are not doing that and are sending us towards a mini auto loan crisis.

Found this from Edmunds, via the WSJ. 

The market is fickle. This is the same market that was buying SUVs and fled for economy when gas hit $4. And before you say “oh but crossovers get what sedans got back then, that is true. But if gas hits $6, people will want a sedan that gets 50+(sonata hybrid) over an escape that gets 25.

Real drivers?

“Part of what irks me is the dealership keeps asking to buy my car (FiST) back so they can sell it used.”

Have you ever seen the F150 or the Ranger? Or how about you stop being such a poor a buy a GT

So original. You should use that line at parties.

I have a 2020 Explorer as a rental this week and after having been involved in its launch I am quite happy to say it’s excellent. Considering it’s size it’s actually quite “throwable” and can take a bit of aggressive driving better than some other similar suvs and is a pretty nice place to be for my ~1h each way…

Yeah, we seemos what he did there.

Well, he’s going into welding after HS, but we still gotta get him graduated before then, and I gotta maintain at least some level of integrity 

What’s this rational and well thought out comment doing on Jalopnik!?

“She’s got Dirty Flaps!” “Oh touch and go, touch and go!”

Pro tip:  Don’t play this with the sound up in an office, you end up with interesting visits from HR.

“she’s got dirty flaps!”