These are really garbage changes that don’t address the core complaint.

It takes something like 1000 XP to level up one battle pass level - I don’t know if it gets harder later on but at level 30-ish that’s what it seems to take.

What feels really shitty is to load up a Halo game, have approximately 2 customization…

I noticed that with the weekly challenges and still don’t quite understand what’s going on. I want to complete them for the linked cosmetic item but the game does a poor job of explaining the process. 

Apex went through some shit but their battle pass design ended up being quite solid after a few seasons. It’s also one of those where if you complete the pass you get enough premium currency to buy the next one. You love to see it.

Agreed completely: the Battle Pass is a bit of a slog without a real feeling of progression or reward, and the inability to select which types of matches you’d like to matchmake is a real downer. I’d love to be in a deathmatch mood and tick a box with specific “Slayer” match types (among all other types), and just…

One other thing that’s also very annoying is that even if you WANT to keep track of which challenges you’re doing, the game doesn’t let you. AFAIK there’s no way to check which weekly challenges you currently have in your rotation from within a round, so if you have to kill someone with a gun 10 times there’s no way…

That it would use the tried and true approach to Battle Passes that so many others use, where you get smaller increments from just playing and big meaty jumps from challenges.

This is an excellent point. I play a lot of Warzone, and while the reward system is better in a lot of ways, I mostly just ignore it. I play to have fun with my friends.

Lmao Apex is literally the only game that I have ever taken my credit card out and put money down for any sort of microtransaction system. Probably only $10 or so, but literally, the only game ever. Some of those legendary skins were legitimately thoughtful and cool. 

As someone who spent most of the past week playing forza horizon 5, a game that rewards you almost every time you hit the gas, it felt ridiculously stingy to play a full match of halo do very well and the only xp was from the 100xp for completing a match.  

Why does it matter if it exists? No one is forcing you to participate in the Battle Pass... You could just play the game and ignore all the XP nonsense.
The gameplay itself is excellent.

The challenges are garbage too. I am supposed to kill 3 players with a the covenant pulse rifle - which can’t kill a fly. It’s impossible to win a gun fight with that as the finishing shot when the gun is literally intended for shield stripping. Either they outshoot me or a team mate finishes them off, every time. Oh…

Aren’t you the one who referred to the act of playing Forza as “grinding?”

No, it’s all cosmetic. Otherwise you’d see it being burned to the ground for being pay to win.

I honestly think part of the problem is that we start with literally nothing. There’s not a single piece of customization outside of “pick a plan single color” that doesn’t come from the battle pass. If this was like season 6, and I already had a ton of customization options unlocked, I’d maybe be willing to accept…

I played for an hour and didn’t progress from level 0 to level 1.

This article is 100% correct, but also, I kind of like that the battlepass on Halo Infinite is so bad and unrewarding that it becomes pretty easy to ignore. Feels like old-school Halo where you play because playing is fun, not because you want to get further on the treadmill.

I mean everyone I know who is playing b4b on PC is doing it through the game pass. My gut feeling is a lot of people are doing that rather than buying it full price on PC. 

Isn’t B4B also on console (with crossplay)? As well as MS store?

Problem is the title doesn’t say

But the Steam stats doesn’t take into account how many players are playing via MS Gamepass, so while L4D2 might have more concurrent players than B4B on Steam at the moment, it’s far from telling the whole truth.