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Well, I did say this was years ago. But I only paid photographers who had pull in the industry, and it paid off because I got lots of jobs from having those photographers in my book. I didn't pay the average run of the mill photographer. I don't think that higher profile photographers do that as much anymore but they

Fair enough, but I never said he was a feminist porn icon. I like him because he takes the wants and desires of his partner seriously and always incorporates their pleasure into the scene he does. I don't push the extra responsibility of changing the industry on him because I never hailed him as a hero. He is just a

I hope she did, too, but if you have a problem with James' model of business then don't stop there because kink.com doesn't pay travel expenses either. Neither do a lot of porn companies. This isn't a model that Deen made up, it is a model he is emulating. Personally, I would like to see the women get paid more, of

"Personally, I thought those memorial segments were waaaaaaaaaaay less depressing than watching Modern Family win yet another 'Best Comedy' award..."

Yes, I seriously did. Nobody likes Richardson, they only like to use him but nobody ever praises their experience with him. People praise their experience with Deen all the time. But like I said in my last comment now that you have named your friend I have no other reason to not believe that was her experience and

First of all, before you actually named your friend, you were anonymous and no that doesn't smack of patriarchy when somebody doesn't believe an anonymous account that is opposite of other accounts. However, since you named your friend I believe you and it still strikes me as strange because it is not only my friends

We are going to have to agree to disagree because I don't question adult decisions by women who aren't being forced to do something because they need the money. These women are happily signing up for this and it does sound like they get some sort of monetary compensation judging by her last sentence in this article.

Nice try, but that isn't the same because Terry Richardson has many, many public accounts from celebrities, models and other photographers alike who have talked about what an asshole and creep he is. Not one porn industry person has said anything about Deen being abusive. You are using a false equivalency.

I didn't skirt the issue, you didn't bring up any new points.

It smacks of patriarchy because other people disagree with your friend's story? If nobody had ever talked about what it was like to work with Deen, then nobody would question your friend's story, but many people have and many people have a completely different account. You are commenting anonymously, there is no way

Whatever is always an intelligent addition to any debate.

Ha, and the fact that you assume I haven't is pretty funny. How do you think I know how is he viewed in the porn world?

Ask any model just starting out and they will tell you that travel is never covered if they are even paid anything at all. As I said in my other post, a lot of times we have to pay the photographers when we are just starting out. This isn't unusual in the industry.

Uh, no. I didn't disrespect you and your friend. I called bullshit on your story because it contradicts every single thing out there about Deen and how he is on set.

No, it has nothing to do with the fact that your friend does porn. It has to do with the fact that hers would be the only story of that nature about Deen. And the porn industry isn't known for being private about how their stars act. If Deen were an abusive asshole on set, this would have come out. In fact, he is

I don't remember ever calling him a hero and I never would. You're right, James Deen is no hero. He is just a guy with a high profile porn career. It's how he values the experience for his partner that makes him cooler than your average male porn star. He certainly is not the second coming of Joe Francis.

He's not the second coming of Joe Francis for several reasons:

That would be the first time anybody anywhere in the porn industry has ever said that about him. Very curious. Your story, that is. Your story is very curious. Not whether or not it actually happened because I would bet money that your "friend" is full of shit.

You are a lost cause and you will never even realize it. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

Again, that is a completely separate issue from this. You have a really blurry way of seeing things. You need reality glasses.