DS9 is like if the TNG showrunners had a meeting and said “This show is made up of a lot of one-and-done episodes, but every now and then we do some episodes that follow up and advance a larger plot where big things happen ... why don’t we do an entire series where every episode is just those type of episodes?”

“...but the mere fact that there’s a sci-fi comedy on network primetime is kind of amazing.”

If you haven’t watched the last 3 seasons of DS9, you really can’t even comment. Except for the final season those are the best seasons. My god you haven’t even gotten to the greatest Trek episode ever yet, In the Pale Moonlight.

Did you see the bit where captain ran thru a crew member that looked like a sentient jello bowl? I liked that not for the humor, but because they didnt play it for gross out humor. It was just two guys bumping into eachother. I liked what it said about the potential for variety of life coming up.

Well, they have to have some things that differentiate them from standard Trek tropes, though I expected Malloy to position the Orville directly underneath the Krill ship’s hull. Notice also that they don’t have transporters.

During the “intro” to the cast I got really worried. Every single introduction was, “I thought X and Y about you, explain yourself in detail.” It was not only bad writing, but bad show running. Leaving them somewhat less known would have allowed some discovery in later episodes. Anyway - it was fine, like a early…

So, if this gets a second season, will that mean Palicki has to grow a Riker beard?

Maybe it’s simply hilarious enough to imagine a racist robot?

I have noticed that Star Trek Discovery is getting rave reviews from Critics but Not Star Trek Fans & The Oroville is getting slammed by those same Critics but Not by Star Trek Fans.

It was fine. I didn’t hate it.

I would say the differences between A New Hope and The Force Awakens are superficial. TFA exists in it’s final form because no one at Disney had the balls to write an original screenplay. The whole film is a testament to creative cowardice. TFA has nothing original to say. It’s just the same movie with some scenes…

I’m surprised it worked. Any destroyer class starship should have shields that would prevent a smaller ship (or any projectile) from doing just what the Orville did.

Yeah, but it looks terrible, generic and made by people without talent or even an understanding of what star trek is. Orville felt like star trek fanfic. STD is aspiring to BAD star trek fanfic.

The difference is that the Orville is made with fanboy love. Discovery? Not so much.

“And the slacker-banter dialogue is really awful. It doesn’t come off as naturalistic; it comes off as lazy.”

I sort of still can’t believe this show exists. Maybe it’s because I hadn’t heard anything about it until like two weeks ago, but the mere fact that there’s a sci-fi comedy on network primetime is kind of amazing. Between this and Ghosted, it just feels like Fox accidentally greenlit the joke shows at the end of some…

It’s also nice to hear that he’s gotten some previous Trek directors like McNeil and Frakes involved. Obviously those guys would know a thing or two.

Eh. It’s probably the closest thing to a Star Trek series we’re liable to see for a while.

The pilot feels as if MacFarlane was going for a loose vibe that would give the cast room to improvise jokes and develop their characters, and then he forgot to tell the cast. The first half of the episode, where it’s nothing but introducing characters, becomes especially tedious and perfunctory when we barely learn…

There was quite a lot of hate for this show early on (advance screenings I assume) ... and I just don’t get it.