Yes. This is how I feel. If you really want a 10, earn it. Don’t beg for it... Ugh.

Ah. I was talking about cars. Im not sure about SUVs. I have a 2.0 ATS 272hp 8-speed 0-60 5.4 secs. BMW 328i auto “240hp” is (or at least was) like 5.2 or something but the Lexus iS200 241 hp is mid 6 to 7 seconds for no reason. Audi A4 220 hp i think with Quattro is around 5 flat. Merc C class 240 hp is low 6s high…

That’s only because BMW greatly underrates their HP figures. Mercedes are kinda slow too. And Audis are only fast with AWD and probably underrate their engines too. A BMW 2.0T with the same or similar NO as a Lexus 2.0T is consistently quicker. By A LOT. Perhaps Lexus went for the fuel efficient side of turbos...

Lexus turbo 4s are not comparable to anyone else in the segment. They are underpowered and much slower.