Exactly. The murderous items could be explained away. Even handcuffs could be explained as kinky sex props. The lack of money proves at least that he went to the victim’s home for something other than what they agreed upon. It’s not the most important piece of the puzzle, but it’s still a piece.

Or, “My cousin who put my husband in the hospital last month.” How could the cops ever figure that one out?

Yes, so much this. It’s not about who has tattoos or what either party does for a living. It’s not even about who did or did not have an affair. He broke the law. He is a violent criminal, she is the victim of a crime.

You and others have made a very valid point, but as I have said elsewhere in the thread, it’s not the attempt at suicide itself that I found selfish so much as the fact that he refused to abort the attempt despite knowing both of them were in the path of speeding vehicles, and that she was facing the same risk of…

Thank you and peace and joy to you as well. Fortunately for me I found both a long time ago.

Sorry, I can’t quite buy that either. I’ve known too many cases of people who assaulted their intimate partners and then claimed they “didn’t realize what they were doing” because they were drunk or high. Drunk or not, he knew she could be hurt or killed if they didn’t get off the road.

I absolutely agree that calling a suicidal person selfish to their face would be harmful rather than helpful, and I would never say that to anyone. I also understand that the twisted logic brought on by depression can make the sufferer feel like their loved ones will be better off without them. This situation,…

I have been on meds for depression and had thoughts of suicide, though they never went farther than the planning stage. I well remember the feeling that my death would not matter to anyone, which may have actually been the case. However, I hope if I was laying in the middle of the road, vehicles were approaching, and…

I know depression is an illness and sometimes people just hurt too much to continue living, but on the other side of the issue suicide can be a very selfish act. He wasn’t thinking of his girlfriend’s feelings when he did this.

Thank you. I’ve been scrolling down and reading all the comments related to his focus on her appearance and wondering why he allowed her to continue therapy if her only issue was the desire for a relationship. She doesn’t need a psychotherapist for that, she needs to ask her friends to introduce her to single men.

If they were referring to private homes or even privately owned businesses I would be more inclined to agree with you, but the signs are referring to public streets in public neighborhoods. A woman shouldn’t be expected to run home and change into “modest clothing” or cover herself with a tarp or whatever to travel on…

For a minute there, I thought I was reading another thread about the Duggars. Are all religious extremists the same?

Ha. Reminds of how I used to do that with the garden hose when I was a kid, which was well more than twenty years ago. The only person who wondered “what the hell is happening” was the next door neighbor, when I inadvertently aimed the hose at her open window trying to catch the light.

And I assume, know the Duggar tendency to reproduce, that she is planning on having children with him. I wonder how she plans to protect her own children.

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I’m not sure she understands swimming. I still felt scared for her though.

Scary. Glad there were people in the water and close by to help her.

I have the problem you have. I’m very lazy about haircuts and my hair grows fast. I always end up having to beg them to cut more off. I try to tell them that even if they cut off a bit much it will be fine, I won’t bleed to death from hair loss and hair grows back, people, but they all act terrified that I will die…

Good question. Years ago that used to be true, but I have no idea if it is still customary or not.

Reasons to wear maxi dresses: