the ghibli is not sporty at all, gets put to shame by any well sorted sports sedan

The Quadrifoglio is smaller, lighter, puts down more power, has a V6TT with half the displacement of the SRT 392's NA V8, and has the option of a manual gearbox. Other than being RWD performance oriented sedans produced by FCA, in what way are they the same?

Porsche barely beats the Alfa by one second. But the Alfa wins by a landslide in the looks & style department. That’s considering the updated Panamera’s design. Starting out at $70k new, the Alfa is also a much more attainable car for an average Joe like me. I’ve really got my sights set on a used one 3-4 years from…

Now, I’m a Porschephile, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the Panamera was wearing expensive Michelins.

The Panamera is a far larger piece of shit. Fact.

And you think that Porsche didn’t do at least that much, plus spent two weeks honing the time down second by second?

Thank you for this little bit of reality!

As it should. It’s a more expensive, more powerful car.

Are you telling me that a $140k+ 550 hp AWD Porsche with an active chassis and very flat torque curve is faster around a track than a $70k 500 hp RWD Alfa Romeo? (If it’s a Turbo S then the Porsche is probably pushing $200k and 600 hp.)

Define “everyone”. The non-spider lights come to America because NHTSA is woefully behind the curve the rest of the developed world is on when it comes to headlights.

not with this price and with this kind of tech included.

Yeah because FCA’s other brands are much more valuable....

4c is almost an exotic. And almost completely hand made. For 60.000 €.

The 4C is significantly more usable than the Exige, with better interior space. Not that that makes it a good car, but it does have its merits.

Shut the the hell up.

Some may say “different strokes for different folks,” but I'll just say...you're wrong.

If i managed to date Penelope Cruz i would too busy hammering it day and night to notice if she had one leg shorter than the other, same goes for the 4C.

It looks great in the flesh: proper supercar low & wide.

That’s a lot of hand assembly for such a relatively inexpensive car. Also, while I think complaints about panel gaps are overblow, it’s easy to see how they can end up there when they seem to be just gluing on a lot of stuff by eyeballing it.

I lived with that yellow one for a week and I would very happily continue to live with one for the rest of my stupid life