The 69 and 70 Shelby Mustangs didn't have the quirky charm of the original GT350, but damned if they aren't still handsome cars. That's quite the barn find.

Sorry dude, but there is no way in hell that an AW11 has anywhere near 98% of the speed potential of a Fox Mustang. It's also more expensive to fix, less reliable, and it really doesn't handle infinitely better than the Mustang.

I'm not suprised that the ZJ lost out; I love me a ZJ, but they were the most horridly unreliable Jeeps in the history of ever. On the other hand, there was the rusty but trusty old Toyota pickup.

I'm inclined to agree with this. There is simply no way some of these cars should have ever made it as far as they have.

I can't. It's infinitely more reliable than a MkIII Jetta, and can actually be turned into an astonishingly capable little road course machine for not a lot of money.

Apparently not. Where did the parents of these children go wrong?

Oh, good lord. Not only did the Crown Vic, Camaro, and Geo Storm lose yesterday - naturally, that couldn't be enough - now the Jetta MkIII is beating the Neon and the AW11 is beating the Fox Mustang.

I accept the reality that the 924 will win today...

A quick SBC swap solved most of those parts-sourcing problems, and made all manners of pantless off-roading in a convertible possible for all.

To be fair, there was no doubt the Fox was going to win that one. Let's be real here: it just did everything an enthusiast could want, and did it better.

Owned one. I'd still rock one. It was the what the Ford Bronco wished it could be, only a thousand times cooler. Plus, it was made by a tractor company. Were you somehow expecting it to handle better than a tractor?

Oh, there is no way in hell a 924 is taking down a Camaro. For shame, children. For shame.

It has MAGIC PLUNGERS.

Psh. Do you even media-blast, bro?

Well, unlike Duesenberg or Maybach, Bentley and Rolls-Royce have existed continuously. As times changed, so did the cars; subtly, to be sure, but they did change, and they were always present and visible. People knew, and still know, what they are. That's simply not the case with Duesenberg or Maybach. You could make…

Yeah, as you point out, ask them to spell it. Then ask them what it means. They may know the phrase at a pass, but they have no idea what it actually means or how it came to be. We know what it is, because we are a small subset of enthusiasts. Enthusiasts like us are a tiny subset of the population. Go ask the rest of…

I love Duesenberg. I also wouldn't ever want to see Duesenberg brought back. There simply isn't any way that it ever can be. Outside of a small subset of enthusiasts, it has no brand image or cachet. It's hard to go from a car that was the most luxurious and beautiful in the world in the 1930s to a car that is the…

Why can't their flagship car be an SUV? Why shouldn't their flagship car be an SUV?

I can't say as I understand the hate on the Paceman. No one hates this much on the two-door Evoque for being to Land Rover what the Paceman is to Mini. I understand why it doesn't make sense from a business perspective if it's too small of a niche to be profitable, but that's not quite the same as the general hate on…