“3.0 D” badge on the one side of the rear tailgate

“But nobody drives a Wrangler on paper, they take it to the dirt.”

He has a point. When you are missing the exhaust note that hurts pretty bad. But the main point he is trying to make but not getting through to you is the engine and transmission combo are far far more varied. You can take a flat subaru motor and pair it with an auto and it is a boring normal experience. Give it a…

Why didn’t they just sign up for auto pay and save .1% on the interest???

I think the 4Xe is popular because a hybrid makes a lot of sense. Ability to run electric close to home, and use gas out in the wild. Brilliant.

4Xe making sense doesn’t mean full electric makes sense.

Plenty at the nearest mall where 98% of them will be used.

I wouldn’t use the word victim here - these people bear responsibility for their actions - but people can commit crimes, and still be products of their economic and social conditions. Here’s a cool trick: you can be angry at and empathize with a person or group of people at the exact same time.

Lots of psychopaths with homicidal fantasies in the grays today. Property destruction = death sentence. Yet I have a strange feeling that most of them think that January 6th was a peaceful protest.

I vote 8. Drove a modern BMW with the ZF 8 speed and it was hands down the best transmission I’ve ever driven.

This really is a serious problem. I’ve experienced it multiple times. For me it was always on the highway when I pressed the accelerator down fairly quickly to pass. The downshift was so violent I thought I’d hit a huge pothole or something. And it sounds like somebody hitting the engine block with a sledgehammer.

I will tell all of the people that are trying to commute in an undriveable turd that drag racing dipshits are doing just fine.

Throttle House was less than enthusiastic about the manual version, and quite disapproving of the design, which indeed has a face only a blind mother could love...

That headlining front 3/4-view made the rear haunches look Photoshopped (just aft of the door). Same with the last pic, where the front fender flares look Photoshopped at the bottom and in front of the doors.

Man that thing is ugly. It’ll sell like hotcakes

150 more miles than a Hummer and 100 more than the Silverado/Sierra EV on a similarly sized battery?

Yes. On paper that is what they are “ Supposed” to cost. A friend of ours who was looking for a new car went to a dealer. In reality it was going to cost $50,000. The reason? Demand is insane and the supply is lacking.  MSRP numbers are a joke these days

His career, and a perfectly fine programme were forever changed because he was held to a standard to which most would not hold their politicians to.