Good idea guys - your suspect is inside a business with other customers, why not go in guns drawn? He’ll never see you through the glass walls of that office. Stupid fucks.

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I wonder what else Booz Allen can fuck up before having their contracts terminated.

fekking boom. Excellent response. If Canada were a real country and not some fake boogie man that Fox news made up to scare me I would agree with you.

Point taken, but still, it’s an extra thing for diesels that I don’t need to fuck with driving a gasoline car.

True, not a big deal. I’m the kind of person that rebuilds my own transfer cases and engines (although my current tcase is kicking my ass). I’m just point out that most people aren’t so savvy (“what’s this 710 cap under my hood?”) so it’s an extra worry for them, even though I doubt someone uninitiated is going to get…

$11 a gallon, but a trip to the dealer, and all the other fees associated with having some trained monkey with a GM emblem on his shirt refill your DEF reservoir. Again, diesel has this extra step that will disable the car if you don’t take care of it; gasoline does not.

ok. Does that make the diesel less expensive, or...?

I mean, my argument doesn’t fall apart, but let’s assume you’re right (crazy, I know) and say that on average the Cruze 1.4L diesel is getting 50mpg even though there’s only one record on Fuelly of the engine. At 50mpg average for diesel and 33mpg average for gas (which Fuelly has multiple vehicles from a range of…

Well damn. Guess if I want a diesel car I should move to California. Good thing they go easy on emissions regulations.

Silly Trump, Mercedes has already had its way with US legislators and laws. Good luck little buddy.

I can buy a Cruze with a gas engine for $17,850. Chevy says it will cost $23,170 for the diesel. Base price for each. But let’s look again. Using your $21,800 for the “equivalent” Cruze, and based on 87 octane at $2.306 a gallon on average, and $2.539 per gallon for diesel, you’ll never make the money back based on…

Both entry-level vehicles for their respective fuel types, both 2.0L turbocharged engines, and both make 180hp. But yeah, for giggles we’ll do the 328i, which works out to 62,500 miles (an average of just over 5 years). The advantage still goes to gasoline unless you hold on to your vehicles like the average American…

GTFAC

Good to know, but gas is still cheaper.

Still costs more than 87 octane, but let’s use your position. A BMW 328d has to drive for 225,000 miles before it breaks even fuel-cost-wise with a 93-octane-swilling BMW 320i. Diesel would be great if you didn’t pay a premium for it at the dealer.

It’s not operating in a vacuum considering those figures are what manufacturers all use for their advertising. True, the figures are not accurate, but unless every person drives their vehicle the same way, on the same road, in the same fashion through the same weather with the same shoes etc, using the EPA figures is…

So the advantage was to people that could pay a premium for a Volvo or Mercedes?

Looking at the BMW 3-Series, a 328d will cost $40,250 to buy, and $846.33 per year for diesel. The 320i will cost $33,450 and $1,209.43 per year for gasoline. You would have to own and drive the 328d for 225,000 miles before you see a cost savings from choosing diesel (based on current MSRP, average fuel cost, and…

Funny, because diesel costs more at the pump, and it’s still more expensive to buy and drive a diesel than it is to buy and drive the same gasoline-powered model car. A diesel Chevy Cruze ($23,170, 37mpg combined) will cost you $823.46 in diesel each year for 12,000 miles driven. A gasoline Chevy Cruze ($17,850, 34mpg…