I don’t think we can win moderate republicans. Honestly the Democrats have been trying to do this for awhile. It’s time to appeal to black voters who’ve benne propping them up. That’s why I don’t want Nancy. She’s been trying to appeal to these white moderates for too long and doesn’t realize  it ain’t happening

By that logic, I can think of a number of white men who are also too old for the Speaker position. Or the Senate. Or the White House.

“People don’t want to rock the boat because there is a longer institutional memory—your colleagues remember well the shit you pull”

There are moderate republicans all over the place. Democrats just haven’t tried hard enough to reach them yet. They need to ignore the minorities and progressives of the party (they’re going to vote democrat no matter what, so it’s safe to ignore them), and really stick to status quo policy like increasing military…

I hate-read Splinter. Does that count?

Yeah, there's a portion of this country who want some meaningful opposition to the right other than rich, white, and old Nancy "We're capitalists, that's the way it is" Pelosi. There is a little sense of urgency now that the planet is on fire. Maybe that's not going to be Barbara Lee at the moment, but it's not a bad…

So your position is that RBG should retire ASAP? Fuck off with your ageist BS

I would follow Barbara Lee over cliff! She is a force of nature for her constituents.

I’m in no way a fan of Pelosi and agree with Fudge that the best thing going for her is that she can raise a lot of money from corporations and the super rich. Besides that, I don’t know why liberals are so intent on having her as Speaker of the House. She’s a corporate shill that will continue to sell everyday people…

Don’t worry, Hillary Clinton seems bound and determined to make sure you don’t have any time to miss her.

I think this sums it up quite well!

Yup re: Schumer, who, btw, is prob worse than Pelosi in the spineless corporatist Dem department

I don’t care who the speaker is as long as they maintain decorum and try to win over moderate republicans. That’s how democrats can really excite the base.

Yeah I don’t understand why you’d want the person who was in charge the last time you lost your majority it be back in charge again. As for Schumer I think had they won control of the senate he probably would have faced similar challenges but he didn’t so most people probably see it as a moot point.

Baby Boomer Democrats to everyone else:  “Why are you complaining?  Our national leadership has been so successful!”

If the Democrats really wanted to show they were about change and helping people they would put up a leader with big ideas. Not the politician who raises the most money. It’s lame and corrupt. It’s why people just decide to not vote. Both sides are bad. Why bother? The fact leaders like Pelosi and Schumer don’t see…

I don’t know. I’m sure there are literally dozens of reps that would better represent our interests, and name recognition shouldn’t be an issue here.

YES! I for one can’t wait for the 2 years we’ll control the House to be given up to Status Quo, only to be handed back to the GOP after the Dems don’t show up to vote because no one has been inspired or galvanized by the actions of the wishy-washy DNC.

So awesome how all the money in our political system makes it so the old guard never has to change things.    I’m sure all those voters that turned out in 2018 will be excited to know they voted for the same old leaders because they can raise the most money.   Really connects the poor and the middle class to the…

I know right? But we’re left with a choice between her or someone worse. It’s almost as if the failure to cultivate and promote new Democratic leadership in the past decade wasn’t an accident.