That’s not true. Gorbachev’s alcohol prohibition was effective until they cancelled it due to the USSR collapsing, it greatly reduced the number of cases of public intoxication and drunk driving.

That’s called Democratic Dissonance (tm)

But what I’m saying is we were being sold this narrative of this guy that was clearly not the truth in the interest of popularity. And my takeaway is that when it comes to repackaging ideas like feminism and selling them for profit, it’s going to become corrupted. When profit enters into it, the original idea is…

Hahaha, good one dude!

I mean clearly it’s not just gonna end, but it’s appropriate to have a conflicted relationship with it personally rather than just say “it’s all good, love it!” and move on.

First off, you don’t have to choose one “wave” of feminism like that’s the only choice you have. You can form your own ideas based out of the observed realities. And I disagree that the porn industry is no more exploitative than any other major one. That’s just nonsense. What percent chance do you have of ending up…

Drawing a straight line between the temperance movement and feminism isn’t really accurate. Reinforcing consent and more women in power sounds like grand ideas, but when it actually comes to implementing them I think you’ll find it’s not as simple as just saying we’re okay with whatever as long as someone tells us…

I’m not denying a woman’s agency by being critical of attempts by the porn industry to sell me on the fact that “everyone’s ok with this, this is what they’d be doing in their spare time anyway!” I’m just not buying it. They have a vested interest in convincing you of this so you’ll like it, while for people that that…

Aren’t you just nitpicking? Do you think I’m gonna say that no, carpentry is not valid? Don’t expect people to phrase things in an exact ideal way, I think you still know the thought behind what I said.

Well if you’re a gay dude, there’s a different power dynamic at play, I think. Two men don’t have the kind of power imbalance by default that men and women do.

I honestly think that most “consensual” porn is a prime example of tokenism. It’s like a slight tweak of an interview with a porn star saying she’s so sexual and she just loves sex, that’s clearly designed with the male audience in mind. And there can exist in theory exist some sort of porn which is just pure…

I think we should be very careful when someone is packaging something and selling it to us saying “this is empowering to women” in general, and especially using a medium that has a track record for being anything but empowering!

^{You know, if it helps you contextualize my point of view, you can label me anti-porn. That’s fine, it’s not really something that I’ll lose sleep over. But it seems like a meaningless label that’s more of a way to dismiss my albeit sometimes glib opinions, but I assure you they’re geninue thoughts and attempts to}…

I’m not anti-porn per se, more like anti-people focusing on people in porn as some sort of vanguard of new feminism, when it would be much better if those same people got a university education for free and went on to do something productive.

But isn’t that like saying that because Tom’s of Maine is an ethical company that the way the vast majority of products operate is pretty terrible and messed up? Notice you outlined the problem with the majority of porn and then your final sentence was basically “but there is some porn that is not like that” Well, is…

Well that’s the test of a true degenerate and the punishment is you have to plough a field.

It’s almost like a violent male-centric wish-fulfilment industry that is designed for jerking off to is inherently expolitative, despite people’s best intentions and tumblr blogs!

Isn’t that what he was famous for? Feminist-endorsed porn? And of course I mean the kind of feminist who somehow thinks capitalism and feminism can co-exist in harmony, not the other kind. Please disregard the third sentence of this paragraph. I beg you, do not comment on it.

is this sort of degeneracy not the inevitable outcome of what third-wave feminism espouses? When will people realise that all this sex-positive porn stuff is just more lies for the masses and that ploughing a field is way better than plowing a butt?