Yes, thanks. I've been correctly adjusted.

Thanks. I have already found 2 threads in that forum for exactly what I was talking about, but hadn't seen this site before. My search skills, they are flooey.

How did I miss hirise? Gads. Thanks.

I wouldn't mind seeing all of this data available to the public. Crowd sourcing could bring some interesting* analysis to the mix. New data might yield new ideas with new approaches. There are people doing work in their garages that make some major research projects look paltry.

Well, I guess "Tickle Me Elmo" *was* original. Still, questionable on the "wtf" level.

To your last sentence, were you around for the "pet rock" craze? I think, in principal, that negates what you said.

...or *gasp*, are simply here to be statistics.

You asserted a belief, I quoted it back to you, and I called it false (from my perspective, since it's only my opinion.) If that's not on point, I don't what is.

"enemy hides behind civilians"? We invaded a country with no military infrastructure. What, we should wait for them to make some so we can target it without endangering civilians? It's *war*, not Stratego. Anything goes that defeats the enemy. Our side has been very clear on that point.

I agree with with you, the culture of coverup on screwups just continues the lack of awareness leading to making more screwups.

I think you're right. But if you think talking about guns is silly, try talking to someone about their beliefs, their so-called values, the consequences of their actions/inaction and their culture. That's what needs talking about, but that's the most ridiculous argument you can get into in this America.

New technologies, new business opportunities.

Good assertion, so back it up. I'm totally willing to listen. Got a reference that's not a corporate shill site to agree with it?

You nailed it in how Apple thinks, which makes all the "Apple is evil because they have polluted the user's minds" comments just so much noise. Thanks for the thoughtful response.

They did say that, I'd have to agree. But there is a more important message that I got from it which most product designs fail at in some respect. The last Rule #5, the design should be seamless as an extension of what the user wants to do. That's design bible stuff, and seems to show up in font design, graphic…

Good picture, reminds me of time at Control Data. We used to time how long we could hold the disk packs out at the ends of our arms. The 3rd shift operator always won.

The interesting thing to me is that this term is a label for a problem, not the solution, which would be meaningful data from some analytics approach. It's like a buzzword for overflowing manure from the barn.

Then we differ completely in our opinions. The system was initially designed correctly, I'm all down for that assertion of yours. But the on the ground operation is nothing but a rock rolling downhill into a dung heap. (Reference current rhetoric of any political side and non-partisan analysis of tone of it.)

I agree that America is doomed, but maybe not for the reason you present. I'm pretty sure that the so-called 'democratic' simple majority is a loser proposition. If we only need .1% above 50% to get something "in", then, structurally speaking, we've got a system that will *only* cater to the 50.1% for…

That's actually a good line to support Eric's "country on country" meme. Vietnam, Korea, Afganistan (Russian invasion) were all the USA being uppity with our "competitors" (Russia, China) but not attacking the competitor directly.