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"What we really need to think of isn't the car itself, but the owners."

Ok, sorry if I got pissy.

Watch out that you don't trip over your self-righteousness. I have two valid non-mutually-exclusive thoughts I have been trying to express 1) what that kid did was dangerous and dumb; and, 2) the thought of surveillance choppers hanging out over my neighborhood, watching what I do gives me the willies. If either of

Nobody is condoning his behavior. I think you missed my point.

I don't know if they would have noticed or not - I agree that it didn't look like they gave a damn until they got beamed, though. It's just the idea of having the eye in the sky hanging out right there over you while you try to have some private time with buds in the backyard. It's very big-brotherish.

Pointing a laser at an aircraft is a dangerous and dumb thing to do, but there is something unsettling about a police chopper with that kind of surveillance power just cruising around you. It seems like it would take a lot of the fun out of being a kid trying to drink some beers in your bud's backyard when his

I tend to agree with you. I love used performance and luxury cars as much as anyone else, but you have to be realistic about the true price-of-ownership. The car is at 50k, so I imagine the warranty is about to expire (or just did); between that and the resale value that's about to start tumbling (hitting the 5-10

It all sounds so staged. No passion whatsoever. It's like their image-managers have convinced them that the only way to make a name for themselves is by 'gettin rowdy' with each other.

This is absolutely true, even though I know that in my entire driving/riding life this is the only time that I've seen this, or even heard of a similar incident.

Factory fresh? I don't think so. I love these cars, and always wanted one, but the nostalgia factor isn't 9k-strong. I could buy a running MGB-GT or all kinds of other things for that. If it's clean and runs, it's a cool old car, but not rare or a classic. Cool old car price is 3-5k.

So? People would have to sell the cars from the company shop, too. And since when has the specter of job loss ever been enough to stop market innovation?

NP - $2,900? You can't put a price on freedom, bro!

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The energy resources are important, but there's another very important reason. Although large-scale commercial shipping around the arctic circle isn't feasible yet, things look to be headed that way. A direct shipping channel that links the Pacific with Europe, bypassing both Suez and Panama, and cuts thousands of

I think they upgraded the V6 to the 3.0t in 2002. Only comes in automatic though, and I've been told it doesn't lend itself to mods. It also has a problem with ignition-module failure. I think you're right about the linear. I think it did use the 2.3t, but it was a less powerful engine, although with the manual

No, it was a V. I'm talking to myself at this point, but it was a v-6 starting in 2002

Not v-6, flat 6 3-litre. Sorry.

'bout time people on craigslist started getting realistic about used car prices.

The v-6 isn't bad, the base 2.0T (linear) with the itty-bitty turbo is the slow one. The v-6 wasn't a bad engine at all, just impossible to gear up in any meaningful way. Plus it didn't sludge, so put that in your aero and smoke it (get it, sludging? smoke it? get it? nevermind).

Wow - that's pretty hardcore. I swerved and dropped my motorcycle to avoid hitting a shthead that ran through a stop sign in front of me . The road was covered in pebbles; I was wearing cutoffs, muscle shirt, and sandals (like a shthead). I got maybe 5 feet before falling down and commencing to wail like a downed