Just a little too much. Just a little. I'd go over 4000 with it, though. Maybe I'm just not used to California prices. How much does a $6,500-California-dollars car go for in the deep south?

Audi drivers are rapidly becoming the new BMW drivers.

Wow. Glad I wasn't driving. My answer was going to be "find a happy place....find a happy place...."

"The van is perhaps the greatest unsung hero of the automotive world. Few vehicles are better for hauling families than vans, but no one wants to drive them."

No, dude! What the hell? If it's cherry - ok. If it's wrenched-up - ok. If' it's cherry and wrenched-up - hell yes. These are going to appreciate (well this one maybe not so much b/c the chop-job and all). But if it's just a used stock 87 monte carlo with a hacksawed-roof and no paint? I think not.

Apparently.

No, that's what I was just trying to tell this other guy in another post. It IS theirs, as long as they titled it to themselves when they bought it - otherwise, it belongs to whoever it's titled to. The bank owns the note (but not the car) and the car is put up as collateral. They have a right to possess…

What makes you think these are Mercedes? How do you know these are not very modest cars? And why doesn't it matter that the person didn't know there is a disabler in the car? Don't you think you should be informed if someone is going to keep a means to control your property? And why do you think there's a charity…

Protip: Nobody on the internet gives a shit about your stupid background. It's probably made-up anyway. Look - I've been on my own since I was 15! I worked my way through college with 3 jobs! Does that give my life-advice more moral weight than yours since I've had it harder than you (which I probably haven't,…

No. That's an urban myth. He never served in the military. He was a Presbyterian minister before going into TV. He was still the coolest human on the planet for the last hundred years, but he wasn't a SEAL. Sorry.

Kinja'd on my photos - again! I BLAME JEZEBEL!

Justin Beiber's music and acting are irrelevant to me. I like that chrome Fisker, though. It's just so fuckin' chrome-itty-shiny-quicksilver-ooozing-down-the-road, just warp-reflecting-everything like some kind of silent moving dimensional distortion.

"...giving absolutely no regard to the car's mechanical state, or its body condition, or the fact that it's a Saab."

No, I think you're confusing my reply with someone else's. I haven't said anything about chrome. I like chrome. Hell, they could nickle-plate the whole car and I'd drive it. You seem to be conversing with a lot of people at once, though, so the mistake is understandable.

I didn't say anything about chrome. I like chrome. I had a 96' SLS for about 8 years, the thing was covered in it, and it looked great.

Well it's not an actual minivan until it's produced - a design of a car is just a design, not a car. I choose to believe that Chrysler was first with the minivan.

The best indicator of future performance is past performance. I'm calling this a cock-up until the cladding comes off and proves otherwise.

Maybe. But the cladding doesn't hide the lines, unless those panels are actually massive form build-outs from the real body, which they don't appear to be. I'm going to charitably assume that these pics are of a new CTS prototype, and that the flagship prototype is something completely different.

I think you're exactly right. So far, I don't see anything exciting here.

Then I am let down. This looks a lot like a 2014 CTS. In which case, who gives a flip about it. They've failed to do anything dramatic or revolutionary, and it will not compete well head-to-head against the mercs & audis. Everything as expected. I guess there was really nothing to get excited about after all, it's…