In Canada we have something called Dangerous Offender status. In cases where someone proves a clear and present danger to the public and shows no likelihood of being rehabilitated they can be declared a dangerous offender. When they are, they’re just kept in jail forever. So we don’t really end up with cases like,…

Him dying would be too easy. He’d just be worm food, he wouldn’t have to face the consequences of his actions. His consciousness would cease to exist.

That said, while I don’t believe in the death penalty, I still like the idea of his non-existence. So... I’d very much like him to die every day. Just make it like the…

And we know we have offenders never reported and caught because when big piles of rape kits are strewn about and a handful get processed... whoops! Identified ourselves half a dozen serial rapists! How’d that happen?!

And, no, other violent crimes are not nearly as “undetected” and unreported as sexual violence. Apples and oranges.

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The people who did a meta-analysis thought that the risk diminished with age in the case of regular rapists who seemed to behave like all other criminals and get less violent as they grew older.

Except that’s based upon REPORTED re-offenses to the police. And we all know by now that sexually based crimes among the lowest reported crimes. So in reality, it’s nearly impossible to gauge recidivism.

It looks like the recidivision rate is higher for sex offenders, not lower. That’s apart from the under reporting of sex crimes in general.

You dismissed it as less than “offending.” It is a crime. He offended by looking at it.

This is from the first of your references above: the Office of Justice Programs Sex Offender Management Assessment and Planning Initiative
“In 1994 prisons in 15 States released 9,691 male sex offenders. The 9,691 men are two-thirds of all the male sex offenders released from State prisons in the United States in 1994.…

Nowhere does Heroux acknowledge low reporting and low conviction rates.

Go specifically to the section on child Molesters. The rates are higher :(

I’m conflicted about fines as punishment, they are by nature regressive and I dislike the idea of someone being able to monetize behavior that harms others. However, with someone like Fogle, who is using his resources to strike out at his victims (that suit sounds like bullshit, no judge will go for that nonsense), I…

Or rather, it’s also complicated by the low rate of reporting rape, making it seem like the recidivism rate is low.

I work for the Episcopal church and I actually just had my anti-child molestation training today. There are three different types of child molesters, which is, I believe, why the statistics are skewed. The vast majority of child molesters are situational offenders (i.e. they’re in a bad place in life and are looking…

Conflating rape recidivism rates with pedophile/ephebophile rates is an error.

I CAME HERE TO KICK ASS AND DRINK MILK.

That’s true—recidivism of any sort amongst most convicted sexual offenders is low—but it doesn’t actually support what you’re implying. Unlike other violent crime, most sexual assaults, sexual battery, molestation, and rape never make it to court to begin with, and convictions are low. Add to that reporting of these…

Guys like this don’t change after a prison sentence. Letting them out someday is like letting a serial killer go free. They won’t be cured of their sick desires and will do it again. Fogle has proven again and again he’s one demented fuckface. So what’s the solution if we can’t keep them away from the public for life?

That’s a whole other issue. Even in places where paternity leave is mandated, let alone simply offered as an option, attempts are often made by companies to convince/pressure men not to take that leave, or to come back from it early.