'Du hast' kind of sounds like it belongs on a 'Learn German in 15 minutes a day' tape.

Yeah, Meshwork was fantastic, and I remember everyone rushing to the floor whenever 'Facer' got spun. I mean, "everyone" wasn't necessarily a lot of people, but I recall them being much-loved.

The 'hyper-macho bullshit' was one of the reasons I eventually got sick of that scene, but in fairness, finding stuff that eschewed that aesthetic wasn't too hard with a little looking.

Man, I'd be hard pressed not to give it to Front by Front, much as I love some of the others. Some of those came out after I fell out of the scene, though, so I can't really speak to them.

I actually hung out with Tom Shear (a/k/a Assemblage 23) a few times when he lived in Philly. Great guy, super nice and down to earth.

Reading through the comments has been an exercise in realizing just how much music I've completely and utterly forgotten in the last 10-15 years.

I remember coming out of Troy thinking there was an interesting movie to be made that stripped everything divine and supernatural from the story. I made a joke in the thread about projects you wish would've been in someone else's hands that I wanted to see Troy done by Werner Herzog, filtered through Julian Jaynes' Ori…

Can't upvote enough for "Rubber Glove Seduction."

Jesus, this article's sent me down a serious youtube hole. Bands I hadn't thought of in more than a decade: Haujobb (holy shit, 'Cleaned Visions'), Mentallo & the Fixer, X-Marks the Pedwalk, Wumpscut, Covenant.

Iceolate.

Probably not a good place to start, but if you like the heavier end of EBM, check out Leather Strip. 'Don't Tame Your Soul', 'Torment Me', 'Fit for Flogging', 'Adrenaline Rush' are favorites of mine. I also love his cover of Soft Cell's 'Sex Dwarf', because obviously.

How on earth did I forget about this album? I listened it into the ground when I first discovered it. 'The Blade' and 'Gun' are great, but 'Mindphaser' was my go-to track.

Definitely. That, 'Join in the Chant', and Front 242's 'Headhunter' were standards of my club-going days.

Ministry, in pretty much all its incarnations, was my least favorite of the major industrial acts. Just never did anything for me.

Saric sounds like he could be a very solid player, if he continues to develop and decides to come over. I guess I just have a slightly harder time with the 2 year wait, even though I recognize it's not really a thing, given the Sixers' timeline.

Totally. Embiid was an awesome pick. I'm a little less wild about Saric, but at the very least it came along with fleecing Orlando.

Looking back, a lot of the uses of 'bullet time' in The Matrix seem superfluous, like the filmmakers were just so besotted with how cool the effect was. Which is probably true—and, for the record, when I first saw it, so was I. I still think that, if we can bracket our justifiable annoyance at its overuse in the years…

That's well and good, but you really should have someone help you if you're going the exit bag route.

Yeah, but Hannibal's way better than most things, so that's not really fair. And I'm still not 100% convinced NBC knows that they're airing that show, for the record.

I don't know, I was OK with the smoking. It probably wouldn't have worked even a decade ago, but attitudes about smoking—about people who smoke and their indifference to their own health and the health of those around them—are negative enough that it makes sense as a 'mortification of the flesh' kind of thing.