OMG, tears.

Conversely, it could be said that of course a mother has the potential to drink alcohol while lactating, also while eating inorganic double bacon cheeseburgers outside after having just driving with road rage. The child doesn't have a choice. The opposing argument would introduce an adult regulated substance into an…

That's fine and yet that obviously does not cover the entirety of infants subjected to this, against their will by the way, whereas zero consumption does.

No, it's not and you didn't answer my question, either. This isn't going to devolve into pitting one side against the other and it's doubtful any positions will be changed. Some may agree, some won't. Even still, we can still state them and that's how this started. If there's an impasse, it really doesn't have to go…

This discussion isn't about eliminating all risk from parenting; it's about this issue specifically.

Let me ask you a question. Can you explain to me why a mother would even take that chance of risk, however small, other than to fulfill selfish gratification because she wanted a drink or two? Make those adult choices on your own time, not the kid's. Unless of course they're going to perform an analysis immediately…

If for some reason it wasn't clear before, "findings suggest X, but I still recommend Y" is exactly what the case is when I'm asked about further information. Surely not all patients are going delve into all of the literature but also they are not always going to follow their health provider's instructions to the…

FP and that is not soley what I base any advisement on; there's also the element of experience. What I do not support is, in this very specific instance of alcohol and breastfeeding, why even remotely introduce that risk to a child, even minutely? Again, people make their own choices that they and sometimes their…

I did not say that I'd deny the science. Also, I didn't specify that it was the science, exactly, that I couldn't wrap my head around. No. There's a distinction between denial of it and not supporting it. As I said, adults are free to both make their own choices and voice their own opinions.

It's not an attitude. It's both my personal and professional stance on the matter. Adults are free to make their own choices and equally to state their own opinions, as I did.

Your example arguments and mine are not the same. I understand your point however, they aren't the same. Abstaining from alcohol, in this instance, removes any possibility of impact to the infant. There is nothing wrong with a zero percent chance in this case. I would never deny a person who asked if there was further…

If a person refrains, then there is no need for concern either way in the first place. Others may be comfortable with it. I'm not. To each, their own.

I get the math. I really do. But just, no. This is a HUGE soapbox issue of mine, both with friends/family and with patients, and I just can't wrap my head around it. Nope.

Oh, goodie! I was waiting for this. The FSM must've got my Christmas list.

How do commas work? lol

Motto for life.

It was one helluva vent, though.

Excellent, excellent piece.

Ah! Well, you cannot know what you do not know and the only way to find out is to ask and to learn. :) I was wondering because I read somewhere about the concern around the tiny particles of graphite. So thanks. :)

You win.