If the Krims had done any of the above, then the defense lawyer would have mentioned it in their opening statement to gain any ounce of sympathy possible. They even mentioned Ortega’s childhood in the Dominican Republic. They would have certainly included any type of mistreatment she endured by the Krims. Since none…

Did they pay her on time and in accordance with labor laws? Did they require her to work a reasonable number of hours? Did they refrain from verbally or physically harassing her? Did they expect her to perform work reasonably within her job description, or offer to pay her extra for additional duties? It sounds like…

“She was jealous of their life and their money and that’s on her, not them.”

Jesus, you are awful.

They gave her bonuses. They gave her plane tickets to see her family in the Dominican. They gave her the option to work longer and/or clean their house if she wanted to earn extra money. They were always very generous with her. But they were her employers. You think that they should’ve just given her more money…

You are justifying what she did. There is no justification, I don’t give a fuck how much you hate someone, you don’t kill people.

Yoselyn Ortega and her sister Celia who referred her to the Krims lied to get the nanny job in the first place. They said Yoselyn was experienced (she had none) and even got someone to lie as her reference. The Krims paid her at least $500 weekly to pick up/drop offer the kids and bought her plane tickets back to her…

She doesn’t even allege that they were abusive so why are you fabricating defenses for a child killer? What the fuck is wrong with you?

I didn’t say you thought the kids should have been murdered. I take issue with any connection whatsoever being made between Ortega’s grievances about her job and the Krims, and her murder of their children. We clearly disagree on that point.

How about anyone who kills two kids like that better get locked up for life no matter what

I don’t care if they were the most horrible fucking employers on earth

You are a flaming asshole.

I strongly, strongly disagree. From all the reporting, the Krims were fair and compassionate employers, but Ortega was bitter and unhappy about her financial situation compared to theirs. Regardless of her personal grievances or grudges, nothing — NOTHING — the Krims did or didn’t do has any bearing on the unthinkable…

This was cold blooded murder of innocents. Can we please not cloud that with bullshit justifications of workplace grievance?

Gotta say, I don’t really get how her being treated badly by her employers has anything to do with whether she should have known that killing their babies was wrong.

I worked briefly as a bank teller when I was in high school so I could afford college tuition, and some of the clientele treated me like absolute garbage, and it’s clear they often took out their personal frustrations on the staff of the bank.

Dang never occurred to me to just slaughter my boss’s kids-I’ve been hell frustrated lately and he has 3 so that’ll really show him.

Agree. There is no justification for slaughtering two innocent children, even if you have a beef with your employer.

If you are her defense attorney, I’ll allow.

It is an injustice to paint these parents in any other light than grieving fucking parents.