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If you don’t think Peter Thiel is an important figure in both politics and journalism, well, I guess we’re just not gonna see eye to eye on this lol

In all sincerity, John Podesta and Ryan Zinke are not “fringe” players unless the non-fringe is only like 10 people. Same goes for several reporters named, and of course publicly active billionaires such as Cuban and Thiel. A lot of these people are quite important and influential. That they socialize isn’t an

Roger Stone, Ryan Zinke, John Podesta and Mark Cuban are neck deep in major scandals and/or investigations right NOW. It is exactly the role of these journalists to be covering those stories and not becoming chummy with their interview subjects. And while I understand Churchill has many advocates, as a child of

I think she’s making fun of them cuz fuck ‘em, that’s why.

THE ARISTOCRATS!!!1

Hello Jamie. Big fan of the podcast!

THE RESISTANCE!!!1

unless you think journalists should not attend dinner parties with people they might cover (which is insane).

It was the most bigly journalism.

Hard-hitting.

This is why we can’t have nice things. We tell folks we are not a monolith but we’re quick to not invite like minded folks to the cookout.

Fear not Todd.

But you note yourself that Robeson was a communist, which at that point in history was the biggest mark a person could have against him. Russia used civil rights as a way to discredit the United States (easy for them, since they essentially had no black population) and Robeson fell for it. I do feel bad that he was

Honest terminology question: he was an opp but not an opponent?

Anyone can goof up and make some dumb decisions in the process of liberation. I’m not trying to say that he was naive. He made his own decisions about communism as did many of his contemporaries. However, to go from opposing communism to accusing him of being an opponent Civil Rights is a bit too much.

no joke. people are complicated. times are complicated. history is messy. and hindsight is 20/20.

So were saying that Jackie and his place in history is complicated? I guess that makes him human. The respect I have for him will cannot be diminished for the simple reason that he was the first and had to endure things that would’ve broken a lesser man. It appears that none of the men we admire or are told to admire

He had some questionable views, but not unlike a lot of other notable people you mentioned. I’ll give him credit for being an Army Captain, 4-letter athlete, and someone who fought for equality. However his whole story gives you more informaiton about who he was and not just the Hollywood/santa-claus-ed version of who

“and he made some political moves that today would illicit a lot of ire.”