So where's the cutoff? You have to maintain possession until you hit the ground...unless you've ran far enough? The rule is possession through the ground or making a "football move." He made multiple football moves between catching the ball and hitting the ground. My comment was obviously sarcastic as a response to…

You are glossing over the fact that the rule does not apply to the play if he catches it before going to the ground. He took 3 steps and switched hands before going to the ground...

I think securing the ball, deliberately taking 3 steps towards the goal line and reaching for the goal line indicates the catch had been completed before he lost control of the ball. Or do you have to take 3 steps, reach for a pylon, take out the garbage, complete your taxes, store the Christmas decorations in…

The confusing part is the "football move" part of the rule. Which to me means any move to tuck the ball, avoid a defender, reach out, or change direction. I think Dez did most, if not all, of those things before going to the ground. If he doesn't try and reach out for the endzone, the ball almost certainly wouldn't…

You're confused about what people are confused about. No one is arguing about the ball hitting the ground the confusion is that he was considered to still be in the process of catching the ball even though he adjusted the ball and after taking two steps and stretched for the end zone.

So I'm confused. He takes three steps— clearly controlling the ball— and then lunges forward to try and cross the goal line. How many steps does he need to "complete the process"? Like, if he'd taken ten, and then lunged forward to avoid a tackler and hit the ground, is it not a catch? Did he need four steps?

2 hands on the ball. Check

You don't think he had the ball secured in his palm and forearm?

So if he had caught it, ran 80 yards, then tripped and fell and the ball popped out it wouldn't be a catch and fumble, just an incomplete pass?

How many steps does a receiver have to take with possession of the ball before having the ball jarred loose by landing on the ground before it no longer nullifies a catch? Three is apparently not enough. Four? Eight? Twenty?

Ah, thanks!

Damn near three steps constitutes "falling to the ground"?

Would love to get inside the head of the guy who wears a blue Leon Lett jersey to a playoff game in 2015.

For sure. I have been ruminating over this more - so thanks for that - and I think it is totally right and appropriate to talk about the problematic aspects of what Charlie Hebdo is (was?) about. As we have discussed at length here (most perfectly by Lindy West in "How to Make a Rape Joke") - freedom of speech does…

I'm not saying that all, but you obviously knew that and want to keep shoving words in my mouth. So I'll just end this with a hearty Get Fucked, and you can enjoy your Well I Was Just Being Reasonable as well as your Got The Last Word In warm and fuzzies.

but not until everyone puts down their guns.

"might as well admit"?

What? Ahahaha yes there is! You, as a functioning adult, can hold both the thoughts that the deceased were assholes and that this was a horrific, unnecessary crime in your head at the same time! Imagine that!

wow it's almost like there's more than two choices there

If someone draws a black woman as an ape in satire of a white supremacist far-right magazine, guess which one is being racist?